Best machine for my purposes

[h1clm04]

I know that there is a lot of information already out there for beginners to choose a machine. However, I thought someone may be able to offer some suggestions given my particular scenario:

I generally work with 3-5 ounce chrome tanned. So, in most cases the maximum thickness I would ever expect to work with would be 10 ounce together.

Here is a list of some machines I found locally:

Bernina Record 830 - $450

Domestic 153

Singer 500A - $50

Singer 401A - $250

Singer 15-91

Pfaff 34-6/2bs

Pfaff 360

Of course, I understand that condition plays a big role here. I am hoping to stay in the $500 range. I don't expect to run this machine heavily or often. And, as mentioned I will probably max out at 8-10 ounce chrome tanned. I am hoping somebody can provide some recommendations or insights with all of this information in mind. 

Edited March 16, 2017 by h1clm04

[MADMAX22]

If you could swing it https://fayar.craigslist.org/for/6043127107.html

[h1clm04]

I messaged the seller on the Juki earlier today. They indicated they had two buyers firm at $550. I think I might go for it but it may not last long enough for me to pick up. 

[Hillbilly tim]

I think you would be better suited with a machine that could loaf through the job instead of struggle and labor. your work wouldnt suffer either from struggling with troubles.yup, juki.

 

[Yetibelle]

16 hours ago, h1clm04 said:

I know that there is a lot of information already out there for beginners to choose a machine. However, I thought someone may be able to offer some suggestions given my particular scenario:

I generally work with 3-5 ounce chrome tanned. So, in most cases the maximum thickness I would ever expect to work with would be 10 ounce together.

Here is a list of some machines I found locally:

Bernina Record 830 - $450

Domestic 153

Singer 500A - $50

Singer 401A - $250

Singer 15-91

Pfaff 34-6/2bs

Pfaff 360

Of course, I understand that condition plays a big role here. I am hoping to stay in the $500 range. I don't expect to run this machine heavily or often. And, as mentioned I will probably max out at 8-10 ounce chrome tanned. I am hoping somebody can provide some recommendations or insights with all of this information in mind. 

If you want to start with an old "home" machine rather than a leather machine you will be disappointed, yes they can sew leather and canvas and do an ok job but not 10OZ, that is to much.  I would say look for a Singer 111 (or comparable) or a Singer 29 treadle machine.  These machines are typically priced under $500 and easy to use and maintain.

Bernina Record 830 - $450 -----NO

Domestic 153  -------NO

Singer 500A - $50 ----- not a bad machine for $50 bucks if its not locked up and has the cams with it wont do 10OZ of leather, but has great default stiches

Singer 401A - $250  ----- Also good machine but $250 is to much - wont do 10OZ leather

Singer 15-91 - basic machine will sew like a tank - still wont do 10OZ

Pfaff 34-6/2bs --starting to get there but recommend a speed reducer and or servo motor extra $150 for that.

Pfaff 360 - Also Nice machine wont sew 10OZ

[h1clm04]

Thanks for the information, everyone! I currently have a line on a singer 111w that I'm trying to get a good price for. 

[h1clm04]

Any idea what model this is and if it might be appropriate for my needs? Assuming it's in good working condition, of course.

 

Is it possible a 206rb?

Edited March 16, 2017 by h1clm04

[CowboyBob]

It's a 332,333 Consew double needle that will not work for leather.

[MADMAX22]

Aren't those good for upholstery work? Looks like a double needle 211. 

[brmax]

Though the consew there has reverse lever.  It looks like my 212 singer, double needle and mine is not compound or walking foot style. A great needle feed machine though. 

A compund walking foot machine is needed. Then the other stuff needs addressed.

Floyd