Singer 45K25

[dorothy glory be]

Hi I have found a singer 45k25 for sale $1000 in Australia Is this a reasonable price? Will it sew bags belts etc ? Is it a trouble free machine in everyones opinion?

Thanks Dorothy

[Constabulary]

Depends on the condition, motor, stand and accessories that come with the machine. Keep in mind the 45K25 has no reverse - not that you need necessarily but reverse is quite comfortable. I have been looking for years for a 45K with reverse but have to admit that I´m a bit Singer crazy - could have bought Adler 5 with reverse but wanted a 45K (or 45D in my case).

Always test sew a machine with the thread and material you want to use. $1000 AU is not a bargain I´d say but sewing machines are generally more expensive in AU that in Germany or the US AFAIK.

If you can post some good detailed pictures of the machine.

 

[dorothy glory be]

+These are the photos posted on the sale site. Thank you for your input. I cant actually look at the machine .

[dikman]

Sounds a bit on the high side price-wise (to me, at least), given that it's not even a walking foot (probably asking a lot because of its age, I guess). From the little I could find out about this model it should do what you want, but bear in mind it has a clutch motor and for someone new to industrial machines they can be pretty scary, particularly when you want to sew very slow. I wouldn't mind it myself, only for what it is, but there's no way I'd pay that much for it.

I think you'd be better off looking around a bit more and perhaps trying to find a walking foot machine, and if it doesn't have a servo motor then allow for that in the budget too. I reckon you should be able to find better value than that. Have a read of the "stickies" at the top of this section, they should help you to understand these machines a bit more.

[RockyAussie]

5 hours ago, dorothy glory be said:

Hi I have found a singer 45k25 for sale $1000 in Australia Is this a reasonable price? Will it sew bags belts etc ? Is it a trouble free machine in everyones opinion?

Thanks Dorothy

Hi Dorothy,

I think that is a pretty good price for this machine around this neck of the woods at least. I am out Etna Creek ways if you want to talk. Check my web page it has contact details or just PM me a message. I am not too sure if this size is what you would want for bag making normally but I do have a Cowboy 441 here if you want to check it out for use.

[dikman]

There you go, Dorothy, talking to Rocky will be of immense value and could save you from buying the wrong thing and hopefully make sure you get the right machine for your needs.

[dorothy glory be]

4 hours ago, RockyAussie said:

Hi Dorothy,

I think that is a pretty good price for this machine around this neck of the woods at least. I am out Etna Creek ways if you want to talk. Check my web page it has contact details or just PM me a message. I am not too sure if this size is what you would want for bag making normally but I do have a Cowboy 441 here if you want to check it out for use.

Hi Rocky I have not used a leather sewing machine before but have years of experience using normal sewing machines. I have been using my sewing machine to do small amounts of sewing on the linings etc and doing most of the sewing  by hand. I make mainly bags and wallets. Do you think this machine is too heavy for what I want. I like a rustic heavy stitch look to my work. Whats a servo motor dikman is talking about. How much is the Cowboy 441 and what sort of sewing does it do?

[Constabulary]

well, considering it´s condition and age (most likely 1960´s or newer) I think it´s not overpriced but you most likely have to add a servo motor (as mentioned before) and the machine still have no reserve. However - 45K are built like tanks they last for many decades if you tread em well. Mine if from pre 1945 and I also have a 133K from 1932 which sews perfect and they by far were not in such a nice condition like yours.

441 clone machines are for sure the better machines but cost a lot more. How thick you wan to sew and what thread size do you wan to use?

[dorothy glory be]

Not sure what a servo motor is ?? I want to use it to sew two pieces of 4oz leather together for bags and carving leather onto the bag also wallets several thicknesses of leather with lining . Currently hand sewing so will want to use thicker thread as I have said I haven't used a leather sewing machine before .

 

[Constabulary]

a servo motor is a modern energy saving sewing machine motor that often replaces the old energy consuming clutch motor. Its is easier to use and gives you a better sewing speed control.

a 45k is probably not the ideal machine for just 2x 4oz leather. I´d say a flat bed walking foot machine is better to start with and cheaper to but that depends on whats avail. on your market.

Since you are from Australia I´d check with Steves Industrial Leather Sewing Machines - he is in Gooburrum, Queensland -  or find him on facebook

https://www.facebook.com/Steves-Industrial-Leather-Sewing-Machines-345144232177296/

Maybe this thread gives you an idea how to choose a sewing machine for your projects.