pfaff 138 help

[beltbuckles]

so i got a pfaff 138. i just got the head for a reasonable price.. it was missing a foot and needle plate, ect.. anyway,  i got some needles for it and when put one in and turn the wheel, i watched the need go down and it bends.... something with the hook  is pushing the needle to the side.. is this an easy fix? is it just the timing?

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Pfaff 138 Parts Link

Pfaff 138 Owners Manual Link

Pfaff 138 Adjustment and Service

Most suppliers will have quality generic presser foot, feed dog and needle plate, however, this is for the 4.0mm width or bight zig zag Pfaff 138 model;

If you have the 6.0mm width zig zag or bight, you are going to need the genuine, and expensive, Pfaff feeder and needle plate.

 

 

Edited July 3, 2017 by Gregg From Keystone Sewing

[Wizcrafts]

1 hour ago, beltbuckles said:

anyway,  i got some needles for it and when put one in and turn the wheel, i watched the need go down and it bends.... something with the hook  is pushing the needle to the side.. is this an easy fix? is it just the timing?

Did you get the exact Pfaff needle system that this machine requires? If not, a too long needle will be bent by the hook, as you noticed. A needle too short won't pick up the bobbin thread. I found that there are 6 different sub-classes of the Pfaff, with different needle systems. Here is a reply I found to someone else who bought a 138 without a needle.

SCHMETZneedles says:

July 28, 2016 at 10:06 am

Need to know the machine class. The SCHMETZ Needle catalog shows six entries for the PFAFF 138 depending upon machine class:

PFAFF
138 – ALL CLASSES EXCEPT —— Uses Needle System 265KK, 438KK, DPx438KK
138 – 6-21-915-01 —————— Uses Needle System 130B, DBx130B
138 – FROM 1948 – 1952 ——— Uses Needle System 134R, 135×5, SY1955, DPx5
138 – 275-01 ————————- Uses Needle System 134EK, DP-P5
138 – 277-01 ————————- Uses Needle System 134R, 135×5, SY1955, DPx5
138 – 915-01 ————————- Uses Needle System 130B, DBx130B

[alexitbe]

I think you can add the 138-6u to the needle system 130b too... although i will have to check to be certain.

 

Cheers

alex

[beltbuckles]

it is a pfaff 138-6/21-bs   then under that 108486   i used needles  organ needles 438-265-dp438    110/18

i also bought a foot for the machine but it didn't fit on well.... i looks like it should but when i tightened it.. it would turn crooked and and there was a gap between the dogfeed and the bottom of the foot

[Constabulary]

Guessing you have a long shaft Pfaff foot then loosen the clamp on the presser foot bar and lower / reposition it.

Edited July 3, 2017 by Constabulary

[beltbuckles]

3 hours ago, Constabulary said:

Guessing you have a long shaft Pfaff foot then loosen the clamp on the presser foot bar and lower / reposition it.

hey, thankyou so much for the pic...

Edited July 3, 2017 by beltbuckles

[beltbuckles]

5 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

Did you get the exact Pfaff needle system that this machine requires? If not, a too long needle will be bent by the hook, as you noticed. A needle too short won't pick up the bobbin thread. I found that there are 6 different sub-classes of the Pfaff, with different needle systems. Here is a reply I found to someone else who bought a 138 without a needle.

SCHMETZneedles says:

July 28, 2016 at 10:06 am

Need to know the machine class. The SCHMETZ Needle catalog shows six entries for the PFAFF 138 depending upon machine class:

PFAFF
138 – ALL CLASSES EXCEPT —— Uses Needle System 265KK, 438KK, DPx438KK
138 – 6-21-915-01 —————— Uses Needle System 130B, DBx130B
138 – FROM 1948 – 1952 ——— Uses Needle System 134R, 135×5, SY1955, DPx5
138 – 275-01 ————————- Uses Needle System 134EK, DP-P5
138 – 277-01 ————————- Uses Needle System 134R, 135×5, SY1955, DPx5
138 – 915-01 ————————- Uses Needle System 130B, DBx130B

thank you for your help.. im searching google and called a store by me.. no luck finding one that size.. i think i need the second one . i have a machine 6/21 bs. can you recommend a website to get these needles>?  i guess just post a link... -thanks again for your help

Edited July 3, 2017 by beltbuckles

[Wizcrafts]

46 minutes ago, beltbuckles said:

thank you for your help.. im searching google and called a store by me.. no luck finding one that size.. i think i need the second one . i have a machine 6/21 bs. can you recommend a website to get these needles>?  i guess just post a link... -thanks again for your help

Call Keystone Sewing, or Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines, or any industrial sewing machine dealer who has been in the trade for at least 20 years. They will find the right needles for your machine.

[beltbuckles]

12 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

Call Keystone Sewing, or Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines, or any industrial sewing machine dealer who has been in the trade for at least 20 years. They will find the right needles for your machine.

thanks, sounds good