White paint and black antique... how is it done?

[Northlift]

Hello everyone! 

I've searched through the forums for an answer to my issue, but couldn't find anything so here goes! If it has been answered elsewhere, my apologies for starting a new thread. 

I'm new here and am constantly trying to improve my skills and tooling/painting on my weightlifting belts. My most recent endeavor is trying to figure out how to make my white paint remain white after antiquing. I tool, dye, paint (angelus acrylic), then coat with 1 or 2 coats of angelus acrylic finisher. I use black antique mostly because it goes with anything, the more natural tones don't fit in with my work. 

Basically, as you can guess, the black antique doesn't come off clean enough, and leaves a nasty tone on the white. I use Eco flo gel antique. 

See attached, an idol of mine's great work - and how white his paint comes out after finishing! 

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks so much! 

[celtool]

I have the same problem.  I hope you get some advice.  

[tearghost]

I have had the same issue also.

[billybopp]

eco-flo antique gel is notorious for penetrating through most finishes used as a resist.   

[NCArcher]

Repaint it after you antique

[Northlift]

On 8/10/2017 at 7:26 AM, billybopp said:

eco-flo antique gel is notorious for penetrating through most finishes used as a resist.   

Would you recommend a different antique? I'm considering angelus. 

[billybopp]

I haven't tried Angelus, but do use Fiebings.  

Bill

[tomsmith85717]

Dumb thought, why dont you ask your idol how they did it who knows they might actually answer.

[Northlift]

On ‎8‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 1:32 AM, tomsmith85717 said:

Dumb thought, why dont you ask your idol how they did it who knows they might actually answer.

Haha, I've tried before. He rarely answers to me. Maybe trade secrets he doesn't want to give away. Repainting it after it is finished and antiqued sounds like it wouldn't hold on the finish.... 

[cjartist]

I would repaint the white.  If you notice the white accents on the red ribbon don't have discoloration.  You can see the antiquing on the yellow and the red, but not the white.