Maul. Doubts with the purchase

[Chain]

51 minutes ago, mikesc said:

"Pallet Truck Nylon Wheel" here, only in sets of 2, cheapest anywhere is €56.00 per set + shipping.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Replacement-78mm-Diameter-69mm-Length-Pallet-Truck-Nylon-Wheel-/351937454271?epid=1638223360&hash=item51f11b60bf:g:IS4AAOSwGJlZFYUv

$AU14.26 and free postage

[Mattsbagger]

https://www.etsy.com/shop/VintageStudioShop

 

These seem well made and have good reviews. I have found Esty has good shipping rates. We jave shipped stuff to Spain,Austria,and Italy through etsy cheaper than across the US when not using Etsy shipping.

[mikesc]

Added..I just noticed that I made a typo further up..my computer system on this machine ( it is in French ) flags all English words as typos, so everything I type is a mass of red underlining :(.
Deldrin is incorrect..that should read Delrin ( only one D )

Since reading plinkercases's post I re-researched nylon bar  , pallet  truck wheels and Delrin bar here, and also HDPE ( which here is PEHD ), and found better , cheaper suppliers..Just ordered various items to play with and discovered that at least one bottled water company whose mineral water we buy uses HDPE in their bottle caps, so, going to melt some down and see.

 

thanks chain ..when I go to that link it says postage $2.50 at flat rate from Hong Kong, which means "takes upto 6 weeks to get here"..and that is if it ever gets here, but I appreciate the thought   Meanwhile I did find on Amazon a company that sells them for just under €11.00 with free shipping to me ( maybe the same people ) , they don't say where they are seller is called "sourcingmap" , sounds like  a "China sourcer" , I'll order and see.

 

Mattsbagger, thanks I've never used etsy for anything, only visited it maybe 10 times if that, I've no idea of their shipping rates to the EU from the USA, but the mauls that you link to are from Russia, the page says taxes included, but in the details the seller says taxes are not included, and the shipping to France would be €16.00 for the lightest maul ( it shows €38.00 to me for the maul without shipping )..But the guy says that he ships in two ways ( and does not specify which one costs €16.00 ) one way is standard post ( which will have no tracking ) and the other is EMS ( which normally has tracking )..EMS normally costs at least double if not triple the standard post rate..EMS to here from Japan ( leathercrafttools.com ) takes around 4 to 7 days, never more than 10 days..He says EMS 10 to 15 days. total cost would be with tax at 20% €64.80 and which shipping method used ( tracked or untracked ) at €16.00 is unclear.

They look great, and there is a lot of detail about the wood used, but I'd be more interested in what the head is made from, he  says "polyamide 6"..which actually means nylon..not Delrin..Nylon is what the pallet truck wheels are made from..Delrin ( much better ) is about €20.00 inc VAT + another €15.00 shipping from the UK to me, enough to make 5 "heads" from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylon_6

Nylon 6 in 60mm diameter I can get for around €20.00 per metre here

POM ( which is what Delrin is ) in 60mm diameter is at €8.00 per 50mm length here..I suspect that they buy it from the UK.

Edited September 24, 2017 by mikesc

[D2G]

I am grateful for so much good information and answers.

I will read your advices carefully and I will reply later. For me who do not understand English very well this is already a job. I've see a lot of video of leather artist like Gonzales, Chaeny, Atkinson, Fischer (with out critical scale)  and ha ha I'm limited to watch, because understand what I hear is rather little
Like Bruce Dickinson say, dive dive dive , ha ha... Go to dive internet

[D2G]

Ok ok, I finished dive.
I can't do one because I don't have the turner machine.
In any case I think if I purchase one of medium quality to beginning is not to bad. What you think?
Really love it do it my own things but ever the problem is many time I don't have the machines or own tools that is needed to make it.
So for at moment I think the best idea is buy a down or medium class, do it some works, make money and buy an Rolls Royce maul, ha ha ha.
Now. Speak me about the weight, how is it, is forward? I never take one maul in my hand but you know that... I'm Jazz drummer and youll imagine, I'm crazy sometimes with the weight of sticks if is 3 or 5 grms more than others... 

[Mattsbagger]

1lbs is good for tooling. Some prefer. 2lbs. Punching stuff you will want 3lbs. IMHO. There are many that still use a light weight poly mallet. It's all in what you learn with and is comfortable for you.

[mikesc]

If you are buying for tooling and stamping designs..then around 400 to 500 gms will be good..If you are wanting to be able to stamp makers marks, then heavier is better.

 

Btw what you call "turner machine" is a "lathe".

[plinkercases]

For tooling I use 1lb (or sometimes my slightly lighter one depending on the work)  - for makers marks and lettering (i.e. everything imprinted other than tooling) I use a 1.5lb framer's dead blow hammer which eliminates any bounce and has worked great for years. For punching I use a 2 pound maul or mallet which ever is close at hand.

Edited September 24, 2017 by plinkercases

[oltoot]

1 lb rawhide maul and assortment of progressively lighter mallets for most tooling, 3 lb rawhide maul for geometrics and makers mark and 8 lb rawhide maul for punching

[D2G]

On 24/9/2017 at 6:06 PM, mikesc said:

Btw what you call "turner machine" is a "lathe".

Hello again and thank you all for responding.

Yes mikesc, this is it, the translator tells me Turner, you know ... 
Ok so 1lb, (here in Spain the usage scale is Kg, 1lb is 453.5 grms) so I keep this information for purchase.
I in make my list of tools (long list) to try to save money, compare webs and this tipical things, is crazy  ha ha, if I have some questions I'll back ...