Members shoepatcher Posted October 20, 2018 Members Report Posted October 20, 2018 I would say go with the Cowboy 227. nice machine and reasonably priced. Get it before 1-1-19 since the price is going up by about 25%! Quote
Members MG513 Posted October 20, 2018 Members Report Posted October 20, 2018 22 hours ago, shoepatcher said: I would say go with the Cowboy 227. nice machine and reasonably priced. Get it before 1-1-19 since the price is going up by about 25%! Thx alot for your input! And for the reminder on the price hike... I remember reading that elsewhere. That sucks. After having this convo across a few different threads, I can say that I now know for sure Id prefer to get a cylinder with a narrow arm to get into tight bag spots, so (as of right this second) I think? the 335 may be my choice over the 227. Plus it has a synch binder, which i know Id want. With this stated, would u still suggest the 227 over a 335 type? I want the power/sewing capacity of a larger cylinder, but it possibly may not fit in areas where i really need it too. However. My fuel pump went out my mid drive earlier today. Sooo... either way this purchase just got farther away and I'll just have to deal with the price hike once i get there. ;( Quote
Members dikman Posted October 21, 2018 Members Report Posted October 21, 2018 If you definitely need the binder then I guess the 335 is the logical choice, but other than the binder the 227 is the superior machine for leatherwork, in my opinion. It also handles heavier thread. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members R8R Posted October 21, 2018 Members Report Posted October 21, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 4:37 PM, MG513 said: Ok now I’m really out here by myself lol. I found a Mauser a few weeks ago, 2500 for the head only. I had never heard the brand name before. It’s a Pfaff copy I believe, right? but I’ve heard they’re parts are crazy expensive. My nearest machine shop is 4 hours away, something goes wrong I’m screwed. Plus I know the 335 tops out just under the 15mm thickness... I’m good with traditional belts etc. I’d have the same fears pointed out by others about when the direct drive goes out then, what? It sounds like if I adjust my thickness requirement, the 335 type may work for me and may find one closer to my price range... hmmmmm Well so far I really like it, and it's smooth and pretty quiet. It's not the strongest climber but it will get me by for now. Still cleaning it and tweaking it a bit. I will say that the 669 is in my future still. I can tell already that some projects will require a heavier machine. FWIW the 335 has been around forever. This is essentially a Chinese built modern Pfaff 335, with many actual Pfaff parts. Generic parts are easy to find and cheap. Quote
Members MG513 Posted October 24, 2018 Members Report Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 1:50 AM, R8R said: Well so far I really like it, and it's smooth and pretty quiet. It's not the strongest climber but it will get me by for now. Still cleaning it and tweaking it a bit. I will say that the 669 is in my future still. I can tell already that some projects will require a heavier machine. FWIW the 335 has been around forever. This is essentially a Chinese built modern Pfaff 335, with many actual Pfaff parts. Generic parts are easy to find and cheap. Thanks for mentioning the generic parts. I had been getting some mixed reviews on that. It’s super important that I can get spare parts easily and affordably as I’ll kinda be on my own as far as where I live and will be doing any adjustments on my own. Once u get yours setup the way you’d like I love to know from your experience how thick you’d say the 335 can sew comfortably? Now that Ive narrowed my search down to this and a 341 style, I just want to figure out which one I should buy first... whichever one will mostly everything I’d need and then I could get the second one later, if I need the second one at all! Quote
Members MG513 Posted November 7, 2018 Members Report Posted November 7, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 9:05 PM, shoepatcher said: I bought the 669 in June at the Weaver auction. It is an Eco version. plain jane. I have it set up but I am adding a pneumatic foot lift to it. I own a Pfaff 335 and the 669 is way more powerful. longer arm, longer stitch and higher lift. It is a next generation machine. I have a 227 cowboy and neither it or the Pfaff 335 can touch the Adler. It worth the extra money because of what it can do and what I wanted it to do. I also have an Adler 205-370 with all the toys so I am covered in what I want to sew. Hey, can u confirm how thick in ounces the 669 will sew? Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted November 8, 2018 Members Report Posted November 8, 2018 It has 20mm lift. I would say 3/8" at least. Depends on the hardness of the leather. I use round point needles. 1/2" possibly. My suggestion is if you are in the States, send a leather sample to Weaver Leather Attention Allen Burkholder and have them sew the sample on a machine. They have them set up to sew leather. I do not. glenn Quote
Members MG513 Posted November 8, 2018 Members Report Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, shoepatcher said: It has 20mm lift. I would say 3/8" at least. Depends on the hardness of the leather. I use round point needles. 1/2" possibly. My suggestion is if you are in the States, send a leather sample to Weaver Leather Attention Allen Burkholder and have them sew the sample on a machine. They have them set up to sew leather. I do not. glenn Thanks very much! Quote
Members MG513 Posted January 25, 2019 Members Report Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, R8R said: Hmm... Whaaaaaaaaaaaa!! I’m super jelly!!! Get it all unloaded and setup and tell me whatcha think. It’s still on my list of “to get”s... Quote
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