Members Constabulary Posted January 15, 2018 Members Report Posted January 15, 2018 BTW - just checked my records and found an Adler 48 (same machine class) brochure - it says the bobbin can hold 22m of size 40 (metric) thread. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Matt S Posted January 15, 2018 Members Report Posted January 15, 2018 13 hours ago, mikesc said: Were / are there many left handed versions of machines, not just Singers ? Seiko still makes their version of the 17 and 18, the TE and TF class, but these are the only ones I have come across. I used to have a Singer 17U141, which was a 1980s Singer-badged Seiko TE. Very nice machine, well made and had a reverse pedal, which was handy. Bobbins were small but readily available -- you could tell it was a legacy design considering the ratio of cylinder diameter to bobbin size. Never could get it to be happy with anything bigger than TKT40 thread so I sold it on. Quote
CowboyBob Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 Just so you know the shipping weight,the 29K standard arm weighs 60Lb or 27Kg,the 18 class weighs 38Lbs or 17Kg. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members Darren Brosowski Posted January 15, 2018 Members Report Posted January 15, 2018 What Matt S said. The 18 is still in production as the Seiko TF class so you can get some parts. Maximum thread is Metric 40 (#69) with a DBX1 18 or 16g needle Quote
Members Matt S Posted January 15, 2018 Members Report Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Darren Brosowski said: What Matt S said. The 18 is still in production as the Seiko TF class so you can get some parts. Maximum thread is Metric 40 (#69) with a DBX1 18 or 16g needle I wonder if anyone knows why Singer decided to produce the 18? AFAIK it's about the only 'left handed' industrial machine produced. I presume that it's got something to do with vamping shoes as that is the main purpose listed, not only for the 18 but also the 17. Proved popular since it's been in production for so long -- clearly a case of "works fine" but the bobbins are so tiny I'm perplexed why it's not been completely replaced with something more production-efficient. As a further thread divergence, I wonder if the 17/18/TE/TF family is the longest continuous production industrial sewing machines by premium manufacturers? Singer launched the 17 in 1905... Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 16, 2018 Members Report Posted January 16, 2018 Pfaff and Adler also made left standing machines of this type. I also wondered why left standing at all have been produced - but seems there has been a demand for them. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
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