Does anyone recognize this Pfaff?

[DrmCa]

This is not a 463 or 487, but the same casting. I am looking to buy this machine to replace Juki 553 as wife needs the reverse. Just have no idea what model it is and it does not look pristine: there may be missing parts South-East of the take up lever guard and the pulley looks modified. Also not sure what is the big black box under the right corner of the table.

Any clues? If you know what it is, is it too much to ask for the needle system as well (hope it can take 16-257) and whether it uses standard high-shank feet? I have tons of those for Juki and would like to keep them.

Thank you!

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Very confident that's a chainstitch, two thread single needle.  

[Uwe]

Yup, looks like a chain stitch machine to me. Perhaps a Pfaff 5483?

https://www.manualslib.com/products/Pfaff-5483-3645237.html

 

 

Edited March 28, 2018 by Uwe

[Constabulary]

don´t know the model but to me it looks like a chain stitch machine

[Constabulary]

seems 3 cast iron heads hit the Submit Reply button at approx the same time

[DrmCa]

Thanks a lot! The seller never provided any info and I could not get a hold of them, so now it's clear I do not need this machine. It did raise the red flag that the tensioner was similarly located as my Union Special's. Love this forum and you fellows!

[DrmCa]

Another strange Pfaff I came across, looks like 463, but has 2 strange thread guides on the top and the one on the front is way longer than what I am used to.

What is special about this model?

Also it looks like the stitch length dial is missing, or am I misunderstanding the purpose of the part right of "PFAFF"?

 

Edited April 11, 2018 by DrmCa

[SARK9]

Looks exactly like my 481....which is a top and bottom feed (needlefeed) machine. The stitch length adjustment is to the right of the reverse lever, mostly inside the belt guard. The rear thread guide is for the bobbin winder....which I suppose is what you are mistaking for the stitch knob?   The center guide looks like its been replaced, since it usually has a post type guide at that location. The front guide is a part of the normal thread path. They are pretty nice machines for a variety of fabrics.

 

-DC

[DrmCa]

Thanks DC,

Is this machine for light or heavy textiles? Does it have its own feet, or takes standard tall shank feet like Juki DDL 553 would? And what needle system?

Edited April 12, 2018 by DrmCa

[SARK9]

I've used mine on very light to moderately heavy stuff. Like most machines of this type, there is a limit on the foot lift and pressure capacity, the stitch length, and the ability to properly tension thread much above T-70, though mine is quite happy with T-80 Nomex sewing canvas aprons.  I don't normally use it for anything heavier as I have other machines designed for the T-90 to T-210 range. The bobbins are quite small, like most other legacy fabric machines. You probably should look at the brass tag on the rear of the column for the exact model and subclass, since there are several similar machines that look exactly alike. My 481 came with a heavy duty aggressive feed dog and needle plate, as well as the std. set with finer teeth, so I suspect its capable of the higher end fabrics. There is excellent documentation available for using and maintaining this model.

-DC

[DrmCa]

Finally found a machine to replace my Juki 553 and the price was pretty good. It is missing the takeup leather guard, but that's not a big deal. Also looks like the additional tension disk is missing on top to the left of the post. The motor came with the 3" pulley, but its clutch was tuned to be like a kitten - I can stitch literally 1 stitch per second.

This is a Mitsubishi without any shield and the seller did not know either. Looks like DB-130 to my uneducated guess. Can anyone ID this machine?

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by DrmCa

[SARK9]

8 hours ago, DrmCa said:

Also looks like the additional tension disk is missing on top to the left of the post.

On my Mitsubishi LS2-180, that "pre-tensioner" is provided for machines that are or can be equipped with an underthread trimmer and "wiper"....the smaller disc's tension is adjustable to control the length of the thread tail left on the upper thread after the automatic foot lift releases the main tension discs as a component of this programmable routine. The guide it is mounted to has holes that you can use to bypass it. Its probably not something you will miss.

 

-DC

[DonInReno]

Although not your machine, some  Juki's with a pretentioner disk up top on the post only have the disk on the light and medium weight versions while the heavy thread model of the same machine only has the bare post.

[DrmCa]

Thanks for the info! I thought something along those lines, but rather that it was for a super-light thread. Anyhow, the machine stitches fine and takes anything from lightest lining to heavy upholstery and wool suiting.

Can anyone ID this machine w/o the shield/tag?

[Uwe]

You gotta work on your googling skills, it makes life easier and you don't have to rely on others to google things for you. Do an image search for "mitsubishi straight stitch sewing machine" and look for one that looks just like yours, then follow the trail. Took me less than three minutes.

 It's apparently a Mitsubishi DB-130E

[DrmCa]

Thanks Uwe,

I did that and even got conflicting results showing the same pages referencing both DB-120 and DB-130 but with completely different images. This is why I was not 100.9% sure.

What does "E" stand for? Mine apparently has a post instead of additional tensioner, so  it may be a different letter. Probably does not matter, all parts still the same.

[DrmCa]

Does anyone happen to have a manual for DB-130?

I have a parts diagram widely available on the Net, this is not it. One of the oil wicks around the shuttle hook is dangling and I would like to find where it should attach.