c6farm Report post Posted April 24, 2018 I bought a consew sewing machine from a retired gentleman today. He threw in this Champion patcher machine as well. Does anyone have any info on these? I can't find anything online. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) that appears to be a relabeled Dürkopp 17 or clone of the Dürkopp 17 patcher machine but with some minor differences as it seems. EDIT: Very similar, right? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Durkopp-CL-17-1-1-maquina-de-coser-cuero-/221318641802?_ul=BO&nma=true&si=qvSEY96ksSGHRWc0Gy1AovuZNWc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Edited April 24, 2018 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Yes, very similar. Edited April 24, 2018 by Uwe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacobwhittles Report post Posted March 14, 2020 I bought a durkopp 17 and promptly broke my only needle. I can't find where or what type of needle to buy for my machine. If you have any info that would be great! Thanks, Jacob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Class 17 usually takes the System 88 needles - some take 332 LONG. Both needles have the same length but slightly different shank diameter. I would first try System 88 needles. Do not take 88x1 needle thats a different needle. https://www.thethreadexchange.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=NDL-88 http://www.shoesystemsplus.com/Claes-Model-30-Needles-10-per-pack_p_353.html Edited March 14, 2020 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeRock Report post Posted March 14, 2020 Uwe, I see a pile of little parts.... I need the screw that holds the bobbin carrier in place, and bobbins. Needles too, but Constabulary posted a source there. This machine worked fine until I diddled around and lost the screw. I should have just let oil dribble in but thought I'd keep the area clear if I took out the carrier.... The bobbin shown does not fit, by a smidgen. The little cup shaped thing I think is not related, or is it? Yes, those are rifle cases and a nice buffalo robe. And the wooden flat table that fits on the arm. Thank you, and God bless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted March 15, 2020 I don't actually have one of those Dürkopp 17 machines, nor do I have parts for it, sorry! The picture I posted was just one that I found online to illustrate how the machines are indeed similar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeRock Report post Posted March 15, 2020 Well, Rats! Does anyone else out here have bobbins and that silly little screw? God bless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) c6Farm, This machine was built in the 1920's . I have 6 Durkopp patchers to rebuild. What are you looking for? It was a close copy of a Durkopp but with some differences. I would need to see more pics of your machine. Does it have a hook? glenn Edited March 15, 2020 by shoepatcher grammar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracyLeona Report post Posted May 9, 2020 Can u help me identify what I have here? I'm new to the big boy machines and I need all the help I can get... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, TracyLeona said: Can u help me identify what I have here? I'm new to the big boy machines and I need all the help I can get... Your photo is showing the back side of the machine. We need to see the front to identify the make and model. Take a close-up showing just the head, in sharp detail. Look for a tag with a model, or a manufacturer and photograph it. Aside from that, all I can say is you have a patch machine on a treadle stand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeRock Report post Posted May 9, 2020 From the oval shaped part of the foot treadle it's a Durkopp. The parts on the top line are Durkopp as well. Mine is sitting about ten feet from me right now. God bless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracyLeona Report post Posted May 9, 2020 I have several pix of the head, but this site won't let me post them because they are too big- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) Looks like a Dürkopp 17. You have to reduce the file size to post pictures to lets say 1200 x 800 pixel or so per picture. max total file size per post is 1.46MB (meaning all picture together 1.46MB) Edited May 9, 2020 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracyLeona Report post Posted May 9, 2020 Is this any better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracyLeona Report post Posted May 9, 2020 And if it is a 17, I have found a owners manual, but in German... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tati Report post Posted May 30, 2021 Hello , I have a Dürkopp CL17-1-0 and I finisched oiling and cleaning...i just have to adjust the timinghook...becouse he is not taking up the bobbinthread... I have an owners manual in German, but there is no explication about the adjusting of hooktiming..does anyone have that information. Greetings Brigitte Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted June 4, 2021 can we see pics of it please. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites