Members koreric75 Posted May 9, 2018 Members Report Posted May 9, 2018 Just checking to see if anyone out there has a mold gun for a Taurus 617? Quote Machines currently in use: Cowboy 3200, Adler 67-372, Singer 66, Singer 15-91
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 9, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 9, 2018 Nope, not here. But from what I'm seeing, looks like she purdy close to the 686. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
bikermutt07 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Posted May 9, 2018 617 holds 7 rounds. I don't know if the 686 mold would work. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members koreric75 Posted May 9, 2018 Author Members Report Posted May 9, 2018 Thanks @JLSleather & @bikermutt07, I have one for a s&w k model, thought I was getting the 357 Magnum, but got the 38, not a big issue thanks to the great info and advice I've been reading over the past months. I will have the actual revolver in hand for this one, and it's not going to be molded as much as a pistol I think... I'm just not sure how the wheel would affect the draw, it'll stay in there, but getting it out... Lol. I haven't tried using them before but was thinking maybe a screw grommet setup like you'd see on kydex holsters to adjust tension. Since I have the k model blue gun I will see if I have a decent piece of leather left over and make one. The holster for the Magnum is a western style so mostly smooth outside with a skirt loop...p.s. I watched a great video today on airbrushing stain sunburst patterns... Lol, it was great, I appreciate anyone that takes the time to setup a camera and document a process and rely heavily on those for many projects. But...I really appreciate watching one where I don't get 10 min in and they're still sitting in front of the camera talking about what they are about to do and then a few seconds of work them back to the poster sitting in a different room talking about what they did and going to do.... Lol. Quote Machines currently in use: Cowboy 3200, Adler 67-372, Singer 66, Singer 15-91
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 9, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, bikermutt07 said: 617 holds 7 rounds. I don't know if the 686 mold would work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIIwpNGXXBo Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 9, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, koreric75 said: I really appreciate watching one where I don't get 10 min in and they're still sitting in front of the camera talking about what they are about to do and then a few seconds of work them back to the poster sitting in a different room talking about what they did and going to do.... Lol. I think I've seen that one. In fact, I think we all have Mine try to GET TO THE POINT. No fancy "intro" and "sag-way" and music copyrighted by someone else, and name-dropping people I think you may have heard of. It aint a 'how to" video if'n it don't show ya HOW TO. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 9, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, koreric75 said: maybe a screw grommet setup like you'd see on kydex holsters to adjust tension I like 'em toward the low end of the cylinder. Or just under it would likely be fine. Never cared for them what got a tensioner screw up at the trigger guard area. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members koreric75 Posted May 9, 2018 Author Members Report Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, JLSleather said: I think I've seen that one. In fact, I think we all have Mine try to GET TO THE POINT. No fancy "intro" and "sag-way" and music copyrighted by someone else, and name-dropping people I think you may have heard of. It aint a 'how to" video if'n it don't show ya HOW TO. Lol true enough...I didn't pay attention at first when I started watching, I was fumbling with my headphones at work so I came in about the part where you were saying here's what these patterns are really good for and folded it inside to keep spray of the inside!... I was like, that sumbich... Then I looked at the poster account and burst out, the captain have me a wierd look 2 minutes ago, JLSleather said: I like 'em toward the low end of the cylinder. Or just under it would likely be fine. Never cared for them what got a tensioner screw up at the trigger guard area. I agree, I think that area would be equally problematic with what I want to avoid... Quote Machines currently in use: Cowboy 3200, Adler 67-372, Singer 66, Singer 15-91
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 9, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, koreric75 said: here's what these patterns are really good for and Oh, yah -- gotta hava little humor in there and that guy what makes 'em wont' care if'n ya pitch 'em Edited May 9, 2018 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members koreric75 Posted May 9, 2018 Author Members Report Posted May 9, 2018 Yeah, that too... What was kind of funny was how pissed I got at first. And how loud I was when I laughed my a55 off... And the funny looks... Those are great Quote Machines currently in use: Cowboy 3200, Adler 67-372, Singer 66, Singer 15-91
bikermutt07 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, JLSleather said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIIwpNGXXBo The video is for a 686 plus which is seven rounds. A 686 is only six rounds. I would think a six shot blue gun would have a different cylinder than a seven shot blue gun. If you were going to mold the cylinder I would think it would create a problem. Am missing something here? Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 10, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 10, 2018 We don't know. What's the size difference between tehe 6-shot and 7-shot cylinders? Enough to matter with a 'bucket' holster? Prolly not ... Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
kgg Posted May 10, 2018 Report Posted May 10, 2018 Hi JLSleather, I agree the cylinder diameter of the 6 shot vs the 7 shot is very close. The difference from making a holster would be if you were shaping the cylinder indents in the leather they would be off by say 8 degrees, 6 evenly space holes in the same circle vs 7 holes. Shooting point of view there would be less trigger pull needed to racket the cylinder from one round to the next. Still love the six shot but not the stub noses. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 10, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 10, 2018 Yup. SAME frame, same barrel placement, makes the difference about 8° (same center line diameter). He's not wet molding that closely, using tension screw(s) for retention. Never messed with the +, but the "old" 686 (and of course the blued 586) is purdy. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
bikermutt07 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Posted May 10, 2018 9 hours ago, JLSleather said: Yup. SAME frame, same barrel placement, makes the difference about 8° (same center line diameter). He's not wet molding that closely, using tension screw(s) for retention. Never messed with the +, but the "old" 686 (and of course the blued 586) is purdy. I love em all. Really like the gp100. And yeah, I did see where he said he wouldn't be wet molding it. I was just checking for information's sake. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 10, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 10, 2018 The contours would NOT line up if you had it highly detailed. And the 686 and 686+ use the same frame, but I doubt that the 686 frame is the SAME as the Taurus frame (though quite similar). Never fired a Gp100 - just seen 'em . Most of the boys around here are S/W fellas, occasionally somebody with a bit more disposable income likes a Colt, lots of the single six ... Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members koreric75 Posted May 10, 2018 Author Members Report Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) I had the same issue for my little bro's S&W sd9ve, couldn't find a mold gun anywhere, but he said a fold over would be fine for him...i just used the glock19 mold gun (similar length and width) to make sure the pistol fit well when making the cutout, i think i added a little for the fold area since the s&w is a little wider, left about an extra inch for the bottom just in case, always easier to take more off than put it back on. He got it monday and said it fit like a glove...lol. I told him it may fit like a mitten, but if he wants it to fit like a glove i'll need to get a mold of it when i visit later this summer so i can make casting. He cracked up at the mitten/glove analogy. P.S. I spent way more time than needed on that sunburst...lol, had I only seen that video a week earlier. It was my first attempt at it, and only 2nd attempt using the air brush... Edited May 10, 2018 by koreric75 Quote Machines currently in use: Cowboy 3200, Adler 67-372, Singer 66, Singer 15-91
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted May 10, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, koreric75 said: seen that video ... using the air brush Wanna take just about a minute, maybe even minute 'n' a half ... Gibson was staining guitars like that at least since the 50's, but every so often there's another leather guy going on about "designing' or "coming up with" it. The 9ve is one I never did get round to. Somebody mentioned one, but never produced MONEY (which is required to get on that list). Don't think I've ever seen one outside a gun show. Perhaps get round to that later, but other business needs some attention currently. Edited May 10, 2018 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
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