Yet another which machine to buy topic

[Uwe]

1 hour ago, katit said:

On Singers, as long as it's 111 or 211 it will work for me, correct?

Not correct, sorry. There are many subclasses in the Singer 111W and 211W category that cover just about all combinations and permutations of bottom, upper, and needle feed. Only some models have a unison (bottom+upper+needle) feed walking foot design that is preferred by most upholstery folks. The Singer 111W155 is one of these unison walking foot designs.

[katit]

1 hour ago, Uwe said:

Not correct, sorry. There are many subclasses in the Singer 111W and 211W category that cover just about all combinations and permutations of bottom, upper, and needle feed. Only some models have a unison (bottom+upper+needle) feed walking foot design that is preferred by most upholstery folks. The Singer 111W155 is one of these unison walking foot designs.

So, the only way to try and find one used would be monitoring all sewing machines and looking at clues, then checking specs by model. I mean in general you can tell by look that it's NOT walking foot for sure.

[Uwe]

You can create an Ebay or local CL search with notifications and wait for one of the usual suspects to pop up: Singer 111W155 or 211W155, Consew 225 or 226 or 206RB, Juki 562 or 563, Adler 67 or 167 or 267, Pfaff 145 or 545 or 1245,  just to name a few popular ones. All in the list except Singer 111 and Consew 225 have reverse. All in the list can sew upholstery.

You can also look at a close-up of the presser feet and throat plate to roughly determine what type of machine it is. Things to look for: three vertical bars (two presser feet bars, one needle bar) and a feed dog are a good sign.  

Edited July 13, 2018 by Uwe

[katit]

What would be a good price for good confition 206RB-2 with sewquiet 3000 dc motor?

[Uwe]

I'd peg it between $800 and $1,200 but much depends on the details - and your definition of "good."  Just like with cars, some are worth every penny, others turn out to be regrettable money pits. 

[katit]

2 minutes ago, Uwe said:

I'd peg it between $800 and $1,200 but much depends on the details - and your definition of "good."  Just like with cars, some are worth every penny, others turn out to be regrettable money pits. 

Machine is from owner, not from shop. No patina/rust which is good sign for me. Other than that - it's lottery anyway. But at least this one is not some basement stored for ages machine

[katit]

50 minutes ago, Uwe said:

I'd peg it between $800 and $1,200 but much depends on the details - and your definition of "good."  Just like with cars, some are worth every penny, others turn out to be regrettable money pits. 

OOH-vuh

Doing more reading and found your post about new  Consew 206RB-5 vs Seiko counterpart. If I want quality made in Japan - I can just get this Seiko for $1300 or so, then top range you posted ($1200) for used 206RB-2 kind of pointless, no?

[Uwe]

If you can get a new Seiko STH-8BLD-3 in a table with servo motor for $1,300 then go for it! They're great machines and certainly capable of doing what you want to do, the rest is up to the operator.

The $800 end of the range may still be a good price for a local 206RB-2 setup. Anything is worth precisely what somebody is willing and able to pay at the moment it's for sale. Attempting to answer "what's it worth" questions in a vacuum is almost always pointless and I regret falling for it. I'll be more vigilant in the future.

[katit]

I think it’s very helpful what you do. Knowing price points like this can make one feel great when better deal found

[brmax]

I cannot be positive but, as in his normal ads he has stickers with his name on any machines he sells. Like in his home base of Tennessee so I dont think the shop in Hurculaneum is his, imo. He did though put in a new shop in west St Charles. 

With all that out the way I have seen some great machines in the CS ads in Saint louis, its just the waiting. But your price could be better estimated at 1200. for a great litely used machine, possibly with a newer servo. They seem to run at two bills. 

They all will sew pretty much, I say that just to relate to particular materials being made and so they can or could be tweaked for that. That should be kept in mind I think. 

 

Good day

Floyd