Knot help

[Raksha]

Hi there! I want to make some half choke collars, and insted of the metall chain I want to use paracord. The trouble is, I am green when it comes to knots. I need a secure knot to make a loop of the paracord attached to the ring for the leash hooks, and the paracord goind through the rings on the collar, making the half choke part.  

Some old (or young) scouts or sailers or something in here to give me some tips? 

 

[TomG]

Use a Hangman's Knot.  It also has a few other names.  Fishermans knot, etc.
You can use it on rope, string, jewelry cord, fishing line and whatever.
I would suggest no less that 4 wraps.. more for larger rope/string.

 

[Raksha]

8 minutes ago, TomG said:

Use a Hangman's Knot.  It also has a few other names.  Fishermans knot, etc.
You can use it on rope, string, jewelry cord, fishing line and whatever.
I would suggest no less that 4 wraps.. more for larger rope/string.

 

Thanks! I would never have thought of that one! I'll give it a try :D 

 

[Nuttish]

This is the definitive encyclopedia of knots. Maybe you'll find something interesting that suits your purpose.

 

https://archive.org/details/TheAshleyBookOfKnots

[Raksha]

28 minutes ago, Nuttish said:

This is the definitive encyclopedia of knots. Maybe you'll find something interesting that suits your purpose.

 

https://archive.org/details/TheAshleyBookOfKnots

Wow - that is a lot of knots   Thanks :D  
 

Tried the hangmans, I think it does the job. :D Kneed to practise to get them even, but its a start
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/861/43577394701_2a0d936700_z.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1789/29706579328_539485f417_z.jpg

 

 

 

 

Edited July 22, 2018 by Raksha

[DV8DUG]

44 minutes ago, Nuttish said:

This is the definitive encyclopedia of knots. Maybe you'll find something interesting that suits your purpose.

 

https://archive.org/details/TheAshleyBookOfKnots

WOW... Just wow...

[battlemunky]

That is a literal tome of knotty knowledge. 

[Tejas]

Here is a link to an animated knot web site. There are other sites.

https://www.animatedknots.com

[Raksha]

10 hours ago, Tejas said:

Here is a link to an animated knot web site. There are other sites.

https://www.animatedknots.com

Thanks!

 

[DJole]

For security, you can't go wrong with the bowline. It doesn't come untied by itself or slip. It can also be untied easily, if you need to. 
Scouts and climbers know and use this knot for those reasons. 
The hangman's knot has a cool name, but I don't know if you can depend on it in this case. 

[Tejas]

27 minutes ago, DJole said:

For security, you can't go wrong with the bowline ....

The bowline is reliable under load but does have limitations. According to wikipedia:

"Although the bowline is generally considered a reliable knot, its main deficiencies are a tendency to work loose when not under load, to slip when pulled sideways[3] and the bight portion of the knot to capsize in certain circumstances.[4] To address these shortcomings, a number of more secure variations of the bowline have been developed for use in safety-critical applications."

Among more reliable bowline variants are the cassock bowline, double or triple bowline, water bowline and Yosemite tie-off bowline.

https://knowpreparesurvive.com/survival/skills/bowline-knots/

[mdawson]

6 minutes ago, Tejas said:

The bowline is reliable under load but does have limitations. According to wikipedia:

"Although the bowline is generally considered a reliable knot, its main deficiencies are a tendency to work loose when not under load, to slip when pulled sideways[3] and the bight portion of the knot to capsize in certain circumstances.[4] To address these shortcomings, a number of more secure variations of the bowline have been developed for use in safety-critical applications."

Among more reliable bowline variants are the cassock bowline, double or triple bowline, water bowline and Yosemite tie-off bowline.

https://knowpreparesurvive.com/survival/skills/bowline-knots/

Also, a clever dog can undo a bowline if it's far enough from the collar to get their canines into it, when we tied our dog to her kennel we had to make sure the knot was close to the collar otherwise she'd undo the knot and jump the 6 foot fence :-(

[Tejas]

I should have mentioned that a simple, pleasing looking and reliable knot that might fit the OP's application is the figure-eight loop, aka figure-eight follow thru, figure-eight on a bight, flemish-eight or flemish loop.

https://www.animatedknots.com/fig8follow/

 

[DJole]

2 hours ago, mdawson said:

Also, a clever dog can undo a bowline if it's far enough from the collar to get their canines into it, when we tied our dog to her kennel we had to make sure the knot was close to the collar otherwise she'd undo the knot and jump the 6 foot fence :-(

Your dog is too smart! Give her a merit badge!

[Raksha]

I forgot this one, I went with the hangman on my first to half choke collars. But I'll have a look at bowline andt figure-eight loop - thanks you! <3 

 

On 23.7.2018 at 10:23 PM, mdawson said:

Also, a clever dog can undo a bowline if it's far enough from the collar to get their canines into it, when we tied our dog to her kennel we had to make sure the knot was close to the collar otherwise she'd undo the knot and jump the 6 foot fence :-(

  Reminds me of my late rough collie, he untied every knot he could reach   My new collie does not seem so smart, thank god. 

[Stetson912]

@Nuttish, thanks for the post! Awesome stuff!