Leather edge finishing from the professionals with an sander

[RusticLeatherShop]

11 hours ago, Rockoboy said:

Not my choice of edge finish, but if that's what he wants, it's his project. @VabaX As for your assessment of some different glue products, I use PVA and contact cement, and sometimes double sided tape. (I've never used superglue on leather, but I have it there, with the accelerator if I need a fast set-off).I agree with you, that it depends on the job, the person doing the job, what products are available and probably a few other variables

Well the Thing is no binder is availlable here and this heavy Duty nylon webbing is cheaply availlable and very heavy Duty. We are here located in an rural area were the Equipment gets in touch with thorny, spiny bushed who Scratch ya up Pretty badly. I once carried an 6" Taurus revolver in an common cowboy style leather Holster and saw a huge Scratch over the finish (exposed metal for quick draw) after just carefully Walking through grasslands were bushes are growing. That made me want to enter the leather craft and so it grew on me to buy an Cowboy 4500 machine to make for myself utilitarian heavy Duty Holster WHO WORK.

So this binder is 1.15" Broad and thick nylon webbing which protects the edges. It may not be the prettiest but I assure you IT WILL HOLD UP TO ANY TASK. Nice burnished (or painted) edges look over here anyways bent and worn after a few months of use.

Suggestions I may glue the leather on I will follow in the future. After that I will trim it and sand it to round the edges off and make 'em smooth'. But not to sew that will be a compromise for durability since the sewing the leather in that stage will hide the thread below the afterwards attached binder. With the hidden sewing thread then piece is double strong and bushes will not be able to occasionally get onto the thread and ripping it. Applying the binder afterwards (with glue) and sewing it on, hides the thread below exposing only the binder thread to the Elements. I believe thats the way to go. I dont ever wanna skimp in materials (like thread or sewing time) just to save me 1 Yard of thread. Thread isnt that expensive as to make a weak piece. Not gonna jump in the chinese bandwaggon (producing less durable items).

[chrisash]

Have a look at Kydex its a man made material that is incredibly hard wearing and many make holsters out of it, you can either drill it for rivets or sew it with a 441 but will apparently well outlive leather, I have never used it but read some posts on this forum, you ac even heat it up and shape it to any form

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12 minutes ago, chrisash said:

Have a look at Kydex its a man made material that is incredibly hard wearing and many make holsters out of it, you can either drill it for rivets or sew it with a 441 but will apparently well outlive leather, I have never used it but read some posts on this forum, you ac even heat it up and shape it to any form

Friends of mine who are ex military say that they disliked kydex as it was actually rather susceptible to prolonged direct sunlight and the heat and lost retention. Some lost side arms as a result. Mind you they were in Afghanistan but... that was his report on kydex. Given a choice they would take well made gunleather. 

Click (kydex and other plastics) versus squeak (leather) is an ongoing debate of personal preference and some technical performance and thus now we see more kydex leather hybrids with kydex where it properties are best and leather were leather is best.

I'm a squeak guy obviously.... am not of the tacti-cool taste camp but to each their own.

[battlemunky]

Yeah, I'd avoid Kydex due to the heat as well. I've had it loosen up on a knife just using it out on the trail. Also, if you take shortcuts with it, which we know is going to happen in this particular case, it won't work as intended. Kydex is supposed to work like a temporary clampy kinda material and if it isn't right and tight, which is about the only thing that has been demonstrated, it is just going to be a waste and then we'll all be called names and trying to critique more shoddy workmanship for naught. There is a learning curve and tooling needed and it doesn't help anyone get better using their sewing machine.

[RusticLeatherShop]

1 hour ago, chrisash said:

Have a look at Kydex its a man made material that is incredibly hard wearing and many make holsters out of it, you can either drill it for rivets or sew it with a 441 but will apparently well outlive leather, I have never used it but read some posts on this forum, you ac even heat it up and shape it to any form

Thanks charisa,

The idea of being able to heat it lets say with an hair dryer is a tempting idea since one can mold it precisely around the Corners and edges and mold it over. Then sew it on.

However if it's a Kind of plastic I fear it is suceptible to break.

But I have no experience with kydex and allways stayed away from it since it rubs against a weapon dulling it's finish. Would not know neighter if it's declassified for civilian use aside the Holster manufacturers (dunno if it's hard to come by). Over here I have not seen any kydex whatsoever.

But binding items with this Nylon webbing has be done for leather works.

[RusticLeatherShop]

1 hour ago, plinkercases said:

Friends of mine who are ex military say that they disliked kydex as it was actually rather susceptible to prolonged direct sunlight and the heat and lost retention. Some lost side arms as a result. Mind you they were in Afghanistan but... that was his report on kydex. Given a choice they would take well made gunleather. 

Click (kydex and other plastics) versus squeak (leather) is an ongoing debate of personal preference and some technical performance and thus now we see more kydex leather hybrids with kydex where it properties are best and leather were leather is best.

Interesting. So kydex is for sure not for here since 100 Degrees Farenheit are not uncommon for the Region I live in. Over here I have yet to see any Kydex Holsters but all is locally (nationally) made from leather. Locally made Holsters got thinner and thinner regards leather as well in order to Keep the same Price - for less "ooomph under the Hood".

31 minutes ago, battlemunky said:

Yeah, I'd avoid Kydex due to the heat as well. I've had it loosen up on a knife just using it out on the trail. Also, if you take shortcuts with it,

No, shortcuts are not gonna happen at least with RusticLeaderShop. I am know for not making compromises to Quality and durability.

Were I live 100 Degrees in the shaddow is not uncommon in summer. Leaving an leather Holster bound with kydex binding in the car exposed to sunlight may be enough to deform the kydex binder.

This is the stuff (Nylon webbing) I use for binding and it seems it's intended use is indeed binding. The one I use is only a Little broader being 1" to 1.15" broad. It's supposed to be used for binding leather. https://www.amazon.com/100-YARD-BINDING-WEBBING-HERRINGBONE/dp/B07B257P61/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537984172&sr=8-1&keywords=nylon+binding+webbing&dpID=51bdRx58%2BTL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Edited September 26, 2018 by RusticLeatherShop

[battlemunky]

27 minutes ago, RusticLeatherShop said:

No, shortcuts are not gonna happen at least with RusticLeaderShop. I am know for not making compromises to Quality and durability.

Uhm, dude, hate to let you in on this but it is LITERALLY  what everyone here has been trying to help you with. Literally.

[RusticLeatherShop]

2 hours ago, battlemunky said:

Uhm, dude, hate to let you in on this but it is LITERALLY  what everyone here has been trying to help you with.

Oh no you didnt!

 

[battlemunky]

Oh, it wasn't just me sir.

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