Clintonville Leather Report post Posted October 22, 2018 I am using 1/8" calf lace with a small tandy perm a lock needle and #0 holes to do a round braid. I am having difficulty with the needle staying attached. Is this needle generally considered serviceable or is there one which works better? Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted October 22, 2018 a. have you got enough lace screwed up into the needle ? b. when I use any needle for lacing I only use the needle to get the lace thru a hole or under another bit of lace, as soon the lace appears I pull on the lace, not the needle to get the rest of the lace thru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted October 22, 2018 I LOVE those threaded needles.. far better than most others available. I cut a taper on the lace before inserting.. could be you tapered too thin? Plus ... that ↓ 17 minutes ago, fredk said: as soon the lace appears I pull on the lace, not the needle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintonville Leather Report post Posted October 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, JLSleather said: I LOVE those threaded needles.. far better than most others available. I cut a taper on the lace before inserting.. could be you tapered too thin? Plus ... that ↓ I definitely am not pulling on the needle after the hole. It worked ok for 5 test pieces to get the spacing right. Then a piece of lace tore off in the needle. I couldnt get it out so burned it and poked it with a JJ needle. It seems like I got it out but as soon as I started on the actual project it stopped holding firmly. Maybe I damaged the threads? Only other thing I can think of was waxing the lace maybe there isnt enough friction now. I am wondering if some two part epoxy on the end of the lace would be stiff enough to work as a "needle". I should take a break it was very frustrating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintonville Leather Report post Posted October 22, 2018 Switched to a long slow one sided taper instead of two sided point and it works much better now! Sorry for the trouble guys, I was FRUSTRATED! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodneywt1180b Report post Posted October 23, 2018 I'm getting ready to repair my wallet with laced edges. The lace is worn out at the fold. This question helps me too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted October 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Clintonville Leather said: ... Only other thing I can think of was waxing the lace maybe there isnt enough friction now. I am wondering if some two part epoxy on the end of the lace would be stiff enough to work as a "needle". ... Always wise to keep wiping the lace with some soft wax mix On quick, small jobs I have hardened the ends of lace sized 1mm up to 2mm with superglue, then cut it at an angle to make a point. Only good for short runs tho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintonville Leather Report post Posted October 23, 2018 14 hours ago, fredk said: Always wise to keep wiping the lace with some soft wax mix On quick, small jobs I have hardened the ends of lace sized 1mm up to 2mm with superglue, then cut it at an angle to make a point. Only good for short runs tho Good to know about the superglue. I used a beeswax/tallow mix that I use for conditioning on the lace. I believe the issue I am having is that the flat calf lace doesnt have enough thickness to get a bite on the needle. I have done lacing in the past but am new to the round braid. After I finish this belt I will investigate other laces. I really like the look of the round braid and would like to use it on other projects if I can get this issue resolved. Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockoboy Report post Posted October 24, 2018 On 23/10/2018 at 6:50 AM, Clintonville Leather said: Then a piece of lace tore off in the needle. Some body showed me recently, how to remove a small piece of lace from the threaded hole when it breaks off. Slightly heat the needle about half inch down from the thread end. He said the damaged lace will screw itself out ... when he tried it, it went off like a .22 cal pistol shot. Apparently that usually doesn't happen, but it was effective anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintonville Leather Report post Posted October 24, 2018 14 hours ago, Rockoboy said: Some body showed me recently, how to remove a small piece of lace from the threaded hole when it breaks off. Slightly heat the needle about half inch down from the thread end. He said the damaged lace will screw itself out ... when he tried it, it went off like a .22 cal pistol shot. Apparently that usually doesn't happen, but it was effective anyway. Good to know, thank you. I ended up getting another needle and that solved the problem. It would seem I had damaged the threads getting the damaged lace out. Now I just need to figure out how to braid around an English point! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
