Members SilverForgeStudio Posted October 23, 2018 Members Report Posted October 23, 2018 So I will be trying to cobble together some Dopp kits for the fellows in the family this year- and the ladies will be getting bags... Hoping to get some answers for a couple of bag and Dopp related questions: 1- I have 9-10 oz veg tan but this is way too stiff to think about turning right-side out... Is 4-5 oz the standard for Dopp kits? 2- I want the messenger bag(s) to take a bit of abuse so Im looking at 5-6 oz... is this getting into bulky territory (having never done this- I know it is ambitious but I have looked a lot of places and my search-karma produces no results about weights of leathers discussed for what type of bags vs. abuse) 3- Would Horween brown be overkill? I truly appreciate the help and assistance- like I said in the first posting- hopefully you guys can get a chuckle out of my noob ideas and nudge me in the right direction(s) Be safe and as always- At Peace! Quote
Members Stetson912 Posted October 24, 2018 Members Report Posted October 24, 2018 I think you have the right weights. 4-5 would be the top end for a dopp kit. And 5-6 d would be top end for bags depending on style etc. Basic totes can even go a bit heavier. Quote
Members arz Posted October 25, 2018 Members Report Posted October 25, 2018 We're also getting ready to do some turned purses/bags. We have learned that 2mm (5-6oz) Italian vegtan (Tempesti) will not work. It is just too stiff and it wrinkles once you turn it. We're now looking for a tumbled leather around 1.5-1.8mm (about 4oz). Our chrome tanned leather at 1.5mm turns nicely. I would buy Horween chromexcel in 4-5oz if I could. But it is very expensive here in Europe The best option for us is Tempesti Elbamatt which is a waxy pull up leather (vegtan) but not tumbled. I would be curious what leather others use and of what thickness... Quote Machines in use: Ellegi (Atom GL12 ) skiving machine, Durkopp Adler 69-373 sewing machine Atelier Zander: Website Instagram
Members Matt S Posted October 25, 2018 Members Report Posted October 25, 2018 I use 2mm medium-temper heavily waxed chrome-tan for these wash bags. That's about 5oz. Still technically at the prototyping stage as I'm only 90% happy with the result. They're pretty difficult to do in this leather, even having skived all the edges. Softer leathers are definitely easier -- I made one in CF Stead repello, which is the same thickness but a much softer temper. Far easier, both to sew and to turn. Quote
Members arz Posted October 25, 2018 Members Report Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 12:48 PM, Matt S said: I use 2mm medium-temper heavily waxed chrome-tan for these wash bags. That's about 5oz. Still technically at the prototyping stage as I'm only 90% happy with the result. They're pretty difficult to do in this leather, even having skived all the edges. Softer leathers are definitely easier -- I made one in CF Stead repello, which is the same thickness but a much softer temper. Far easier, both to sew and to turn. Expand Looks nice! A softer leather is easier to work with. We just made a bag from a Sedgwick lacing hide (2.0-2.2mm). It was hard getting the gusset glued in place (it was not turned). Quote Machines in use: Ellegi (Atom GL12 ) skiving machine, Durkopp Adler 69-373 sewing machine Atelier Zander: Website Instagram
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