Members KennethM Posted October 24, 2018 Author Members Report Posted October 24, 2018 8 hours ago, R8R said: The 1460 is the same type of model Sailrite cloned for their Fabricator machine. All of the adjustments and tuning should be the same. Sailrite has a VERY thorough user/adjustment manual. Everything about that machine is covered. https://www.sailrite.com/PDF/2016_Fabricator_Guidebook.pdf I had one of these machines and for what it was, I loved it. Only reason I sold it was to get something with more foot lift/capacity. The only big difference with the 1460 will be the handwheel/belt/motor, Sailrite has a proprietary drive setup. Thank you brother.Ill have to take a look at this! 8 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: Have or can you measure the voltage at the outlet where you plugged in the motor? No sir,I dont have the proper equipment Quote
Members KennethM Posted October 24, 2018 Author Members Report Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, CowboyBob said: This machine is the same as the Consew P1206 we've been selling & we haven't had issues like this with it.You have some good advice already & it sounds like it needs some oil on all the walking foot parts underneath the cover & you possibly could have the tension too loose so you might have to increase it a little to make it go down.And after you use it for a month or so you can loosen the pressure foot tension once it gets broken in. Thank you for the advice brother.I fooled around with the pressure feet alignment,so far so good! Quote
Members KennethM Posted October 24, 2018 Author Members Report Posted October 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, kgg said: Did you buy the machine directly from Techsew or a dealer? Did the feet stick before you replaced them with the smooth feet? Once you check the links place the original ones back on and see if still happens. The new ones may need to be adjusted or filed a bit to give more side clearance. As far as the motor goes: 1. I would check the voltage at that plug anyway like Wiz said. If possible, plug it into another plug on a different circuit. 2. Remove the belt from the motor so there is no load on the motor during startup and see if you get a high rpm jump. 3. Check and see if the connection from the sewing table foot peddle to the motor level is adjusted properly and see if there is anything jamming the motors actuating rod or something got buckled during shipment. If you are getting smooth no load control you maybe having other internal issues related to the sewing machine itself that are causing an initial high load condition on the motor. As far as "needing more juice" unless you are having problems with other appliances / computers, lights constantly dimming or the machine is plugged into a circuit with high motor loads like fridges or deep freezes, I doubt a "juice" problem. Will that be orange or tomato juice with your veg? I am guessing that you have a bum motor. kgg I am about to go through this check list and check all these things brother. You know what I just noticed..I think the put the rpm sticker on wrong..I never looked under here with a flashlight untill now...The speed Bob is in the first speed setting on 660 but I never noticed that to the left of it says 350 Rpms..maybe they put the sticker on all jacked up. Question.If my theory on the sticker is true then the motor is fine.So what I thought was 900+Rpms might be more like in the 600s..however in this low speed setting if I am sewing 4oz veg tan with a diamond point needle should the needle get stuck?At this speed with this leather and needle,after a few stitches the needle just gets stuck. Quote
Techsew Ron Posted October 24, 2018 Report Posted October 24, 2018 Hi Kenneth, we're looking into the issue with the motor settings. It does sound like the RPM sticker may be slightly off as in our testing here this motor starts operating at around the 300RPM line. Now, depending on the thickness of the material you're sewing you may need to turn up the speed a bit since the material thickness will limit the motor's ability to operate at the minimum speed. If the speed is still too fast for you there are other options available ie installing a speed reducer. As for the presser foot alignment, can you please email us some photos of the new feet you installed so we can verify if everything was installed correctly? I have attached a copy of the instruction manual and parts manual for the 1460. Just wanted to make sure you received the right one. If there are any further questions you are free to give us a call or email at any time - we're always happy to assist. Best regards, Ron 1460manual.pdf Quote Techsew Industrial Sewing Machines Call toll-free: 866-415-8223 Visit www.techsew.com
Members KennethM Posted October 25, 2018 Author Members Report Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 8:45 AM, Techsew Ron said: Hi Kenneth, we're looking into the issue with the motor settings. It does sound like the RPM sticker may be slightly off as in our testing here this motor starts operating at around the 300RPM line. Now, depending on the thickness of the material you're sewing you may need to turn up the speed a bit since the material thickness will limit the motor's ability to operate at the minimum speed. If the speed is still too fast for you there are other options available ie installing a speed reducer. As for the presser foot alignment, can you please email us some photos of the new feet you installed so we can verify if everything was installed correctly? I have attached a copy of the instruction manual and parts manual for the 1460. Just wanted to make sure you received the right one. If there are any further questions you are free to give us a call or email at any time - we're always happy to assist. Best regards, Ron 1460manual.pdf Tthanks for the instruction manual.As far as the motor starting at the 300rpm realm for you that's cool.Do me at 300rpm(not sewing anything ) I can hear the motor reving up however the belt doesn't move..Like I said the needle doesn't move untill maybe 600 Rpms(guessing since the sticker is on wrong) ..At anything lower then that you can hear the motor but nothing happens. Thanks Quote
kgg Posted October 26, 2018 Report Posted October 26, 2018 hi KennethM Have you tried removing the drive belt and seeing what happens with the motor having no startup load of the belt or machine? Or remove the feet from the machine all together and see what happens. Keep us up to date. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members KennethM Posted October 26, 2018 Author Members Report Posted October 26, 2018 13 hours ago, kgg said: hi KennethM Have you tried removing the drive belt and seeing what happens with the motor having no startup load of the belt or machine? Or remove the feet from the machine all together and see what happens. Keep us up to date. kgg I have not thought about that.Remove the feet?you mean the pressure feet?I fixed them sticking. I got my speed reducer in today so I will remove the belt and do some test and see what happens brother.Busy day today My son turns 14! Quote
Members KennethM Posted October 26, 2018 Author Members Report Posted October 26, 2018 Here's a vid I made showing what I'm talking about. https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6c26rhig7qm5qj/1026181016.mp4?dl=0 Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 26, 2018 Moderator Report Posted October 26, 2018 Two of my servo motors (different brands) do the same thing (no power at turn over speed, or too high a workable speed). It is a manufacturing defect, or resistor/electronics tolerance issue. The only recourse is to try another motor (ask the dealer to test it before shipping it), or live with it. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
kgg Posted October 26, 2018 Report Posted October 26, 2018 I looked at your video, clearly shows no load startup at a couple of low settings. I would forward it on to Techsew to show them what you are contending with. The motor might have gotten a bang during shipment. I know I would definitely not be satisfied with that motors functionally or confidence in it's longevity. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
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