Members Harry Marinakis Posted November 3, 2018 Members Report Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) I have made about 60 to 70 natural leather dyes, and here is some detailed information on what I have learned. 1. The best mordant for dyeing leather with a vegetable dye is potassium alum. Don't use too much, 5 grams dissolved in 100 ml of water is adequate. Apply only one or two coats of this mordant solution, and then allow to dry before dyeing. (The following vegetable dyes do not require a mordant: indigo, lac, walnut, woad.) 2. The following vegetable substrates are proven leather dyes, but generally they are not wash-fast or sun-fast: Brazilwood (pernambuco) (red and purple) Buckthorn berries (green, lavender, purple) Indigo (blue) Lac insects (red) Poke berries (red and purple) Turmeric root (yellow) Walnut (brown) Woad (blue) 2. You can either soak the leather in the dye, or paint the dye onto the leather. Indigo - very powerful, so dilute and brush onto leather sparingly Walnut - soak the leather for a day or two Every other dye - soak the leather for 1 to 3 days, or brush 5 to 10 coats of dye onto leather. Allow each coat to dry before applying another coat of dye. 3. To prepare a vegetable dye usually requires the following process: (a) crush the vegetable substrate and soak for one to seven days in either water, vinegar, or potassium carbonate solution (depending on the color that you desire); (b) boil and simmer for an hour, or two, or three, and then soak for a few days to fully extract the colorant; (c) strain the dye to remove the vegetable dregs; (d) brush the liquid dye onto the leather. 4. In general, you want to concentrate the final vegetable dye by simmering. A good goal is a final dye volume of 1 milliliter for every gram of dry vegetable substrate with which you started. In other words, if you start with 400 grams of dry brazilwood shavings to make a dye, then add as much water as you need to boil the shavings, but simmer the final dye bath until it is down to about 400 ml. 5. Adding crushed gum Arabic powder to the dye thickens it and gives the dye a nice texture. 6. There are a few natural non-vegetable dyes that are excellent. Iron-tannin-acid reactions produce wonderful grey and black dyes that are wash-fast, sun-fast, and rub-fast. A mordant is not required. 7. You can make an iron-tannin-acid dye by dissolving steel wool in household vinegar for 1 to 2 months (with the cap off). aka "vinagroon." Soak the leather in the vinagroon overnight, then rinse well. 8. To get grey, you'll need to boil 1 part ferrous sulfate with 1 part copper sulfate in a vinegar and tannin dye bath. Boil and simmer for a few hours. Allow to cool and settle, then decant the liquid and discard the dregs on the bottom. Apply only one light coat of liquid dye. The color takes about 3 hours to fully develop, so be patient before applying any more dye. 9. Making and using natural leather dyes is a bit of an art, so don't be too disappointed with your first results. Practice, experiment, practice, experiment. Edited November 3, 2018 by Harry Marinakis Quote
Members battlemunky Posted November 3, 2018 Members Report Posted November 3, 2018 Those are quite vibrant and beautiful. Thanks for posting the info. Quote
Members rodneywt1180b Posted November 3, 2018 Members Report Posted November 3, 2018 Thank you for that, it looks like fun. The walnut dye. Is that from walnut husks like the old woodworking recipes call for? I'm currently making a batch of walnut husk dye for wood and am wondering if they're the same. Quote
Members Harry Marinakis Posted November 3, 2018 Author Members Report Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, rodneywt1180b said: The walnut dye. Is that from walnut husks like the old woodworking recipes call for? Walnut husks are not useful in making a leather dye. Use green walnuts before a nut forms. Break them up into 1/4-inch chunks, boil, and strain. Wear gloves or you will have brown fingers and fingernails for WEEKS!!! Edited November 3, 2018 by Harry Marinakis Quote
Members rodneywt1180b Posted November 3, 2018 Members Report Posted November 3, 2018 Thank you Harry. Do they have to be black walnuts or will English work? I don't have access to any black walnut trees near me. I may have been carefully storing a jar full of black yuck the last few weeks for no good reason then. I'll continue with what I have just for educational purposes. I won't be out much but time. Next year I'll get some green ones and try again. Quote
Members machinehead Posted November 3, 2018 Members Report Posted November 3, 2018 Interesting info, Harry. Have you heard about Logwood? Quote
Members Harry Marinakis Posted November 4, 2018 Author Members Report Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, rodneywt1180b said: Do they have to be black walnuts or will English work? No idea, sorry 4 hours ago, machinehead said: Have you heard about Logwood? I cannot get any logwood, so I haven't tried it. Edited November 4, 2018 by Harry Marinakis Quote
Members Harry Marinakis Posted November 4, 2018 Author Members Report Posted November 4, 2018 Oops! Forgot to say that the iron-tannin-acid dyes are all black or grey. Vinagroon is a black dye. Quote
Members aaljarbou Posted July 27, 2020 Members Report Posted July 27, 2020 Hi Harry, Could you tell us which of the swatches you posted are which dye? Thanks! Quote
Members Vikefan Posted January 6, 2021 Members Report Posted January 6, 2021 Harry Marinakis (The following vegetable dyes do not require a mordant: indigo, lac, walnut, woad.) 2. The following vegetable substrates are proven leather dyes, but generally they are not wash-fast or sun-fast: (WHAT DOES this mean? I dyed my leather, but when I wet it to mold, the dye color I had, washes off. Why is that? Vikefan Quote
Members Harry Marinakis Posted March 18, 2021 Author Members Report Posted March 18, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 8:00 PM, Vikefan said: Harry Marinakis (The following vegetable dyes do not require a mordant: indigo, lac, walnut, woad.) 2. The following vegetable substrates are proven leather dyes, but generally they are not wash-fast or sun-fast: (WHAT DOES this mean? I dyed my leather, but when I wet it to mold, the dye color I had, washes off. Why is that? Vikefan Not wash-fast means the dye is water-soluble and will wash out if the leather is wetted. Not sun-fast means that the dye will fade rapidly in left in direct sunlight. Quote
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