alpha2 Report post Posted December 4, 2018 I need to know approximately the circumference of an average ladies western hat, for some hatbands. My client doesn't have the hat, as it's for her daughter in another state. I could take an average size and add a couple of extra holes, but don't know what size an average ladies western hat would be. Anyone? Jeff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted December 4, 2018 Average ladies head is about 56cm to 57 cm around; add about 4cm for hat sweat band and material thickness = 60 to 61cm. If doing a buckle joint add at least 4cm to go thru the buckle = 64 to 65cm plus your fold over for the buckle itself, maybe another 4cm = 68 to 69 cm, so around 70cm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisash Report post Posted December 4, 2018 Try https://www.hatsandcaps.co.uk/hat-size-chart-asize_chart/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpha2 Report post Posted December 4, 2018 Thanks, that's just what I needed! Jeff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpha2 Report post Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, fredk said: Average ladies head is about 56cm to 57 cm around; add about 4cm for hat sweat band and material thickness = 60 to 61cm. If doing a buckle joint add at least 4cm to go thru the buckle = 64 to 65cm plus your fold over for the buckle itself, maybe another 4cm = 68 to 69 cm, so around 70cm Wait, Fredk, do you mean 4 mm to go through the buckle? 4 cm seems like a lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted December 4, 2018 I just measured round my own hat; its a 56 cm head size. Around the outside of the crown is exactly 60 cm 21 minutes ago, alpha2 said: Wait, Fredk, do you mean 4 mm to go through the buckle? 4 cm seems like a lot. My hat bands I make are like belts with a buckle. The end with adjustment holes; 4cm to go thru the buckle and keeper is not too much. It allows a couple of extra holes at 1 cm intervals for a slightly larger diameter crown. 3 cm is too little and above 5cm looks too ungainly. On the other end for the buckle a fold around of 4cm is modest. It can be less, but at 4cm there is room for a keeper to be sandwiched Tandy sells ready cut hat-band straps. The straps are pre-punched for main fittings. They are 3/8" wide. 74 cm long and the fold around the buckle is 6cm [74 - 6 = 68cm nominal hat band] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpha2 Report post Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I see what you're saying now. Edited December 5, 2018 by alpha2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clackdaddy Report post Posted April 23, 2021 On 12/4/2018 at 1:09 PM, fredk said: I just measured round my own hat; its a 56 cm head size. Around the outside of the crown is exactly 60 cm My hat bands I make are like belts with a buckle. The end with adjustment holes; 4cm to go thru the buckle and keeper is not too much. It allows a couple of extra holes at 1 cm intervals for a slightly larger diameter crown. 3 cm is too little and above 5cm looks too ungainly. On the other end for the buckle a fold around of 4cm is modest. It can be less, but at 4cm there is room for a keeper to be sandwiched Tandy sells ready cut hat-band straps. The straps are pre-punched for main fittings. They are 3/8" wide. 74 cm long and the fold around the buckle is 6cm [74 - 6 = 68cm nominal hat band] I came on here just to see if I could find this info(though I guess I might have found it on Tandy’s site now that I think about it), Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites