Moderator Wizcrafts Posted August 19, 2019 Moderator Report Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, jrprottas said: How did the cobra 4 compare to the newer cowboy3200? One sews up to 1/2 inch while the other sews over 3/4 inch. The pressure springs are heavier on the Class 4 and are able to hold down thicker stacks of leather than the 3200. The Class 4 has a 16.5 inch arm compared to the 10.5 inches on the 3200. Finally, the Class 4 and CB4500 are able to actually tension and pull up #415 bonded thread, which the CB3200 may not be able to do without difficulty. Regarding accessories, if the CB3200 is fitted with a raised (holster/stirrup) throat plate, there may only be 1/8 to 3/16 inch alternating height left for leather to be sewn. That's not much thickness. It is best used on projects that don't need to be raised to clear shapes protruding down close to the left side of the needle. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members jrprottas Posted August 20, 2019 Author Members Report Posted August 20, 2019 4 hours ago, jrprottas said: 4 hours ago, jrprottas said: 6 hours ago, WolfteverGunleather said: 2) Control. When you're using a manual machine, one of your hands is out of service for anything but operating the machine. So on some projects where both hands are needed to keep some critical pieces properly lined up while you're stitching, you're limited to one hand and quality can suffer. Great point...that makes alot of sense! Thank you Quote
Members Sturme Posted August 20, 2019 Members Report Posted August 20, 2019 with the accessories for the tippmann it would be worth looking into. especially for the flatbed attachment. I love mine. Quote
Members chrisash Posted August 21, 2019 Members Report Posted August 21, 2019 On the sound issue, you can buy industrial sound deadening vibration absorbing mats that you can place the machine on that may absorb some of the noise attenuation Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
WolfteverGunleather Posted August 21, 2019 Report Posted August 21, 2019 On 8/19/2019 at 5:38 PM, jrprottas said: Thanks for your input. How did the cobra 4 compare to the newer cowboy3200? Wiz has already provided an excellent response, and he's right on target (as always!). I keep my Cobra 4 set up for 277 top thread and use it for holsters, sheaths, and other heavy work. I keep the Cowboy 3200 set up for 138 thread and use it for lighter work, and as Wiz pointed out that's all flat work. That keeps me from losing the time involved in changing needles, readjusting thread tension, etc. on a single machine, and it also uses each machine within the limits and sweet spot they were designed for. Quote
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