Members Constabulary Posted September 13, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Top feed (material feeding by a mechanically driven and mainly toothed presser foot) and jump foot are different. The jump foot goes forward with the feed dog but is not driven mechanically. They are usually spring loaded and jump back at the end of the stitch cycle. Advantage of the jump foot and top feed compared with the plain static presser foot is that there is no friction between the material and the presser foot and the foot puts permanent pressure on the material so thats a safer material feeding especially when when you have multiple layers of slick material like faux leather or the like. They also can be adjusted to "climb" over raised seams. Singer, to my best knowledge, has called these feet "vibrating presser feet". But as always no one knows all machines and there might be differences or variants so this is just my explanation. There are several different jump foot systems on "leather trade" machines. Some well known machines are Singer 132K6, Singer 45K89 or Adler 4, and 5 or Adler 104 and 105 (depends on subclass) and several others. The long beak shuttle is a hook type with no bobbin case. The hook has a spring loaded "trap door" which holds the bobbin in place. Its is an oscillating hook like the CB hook but as far as I know (or guess) it can handle larger thread sizes but it has a smaller type bobbin f.i. compared with the Singer 15 or 31 type CB hook sewing machine. This is a class 15 CB Hook (I have no CB machines so pic stole from the WWW) And this is a long beak shuttle hook from the above Singer 16 machine Edited September 13, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
mikesc Posted September 13, 2019 Report Posted September 13, 2019 Ah..I had a long beak shuttle hook "backwards"..that is one of the "shuttles" , which isn't, and doesn't..so ignore that incorrect part of my post back up there. Very clean, or have you already begun "restoring" the machine ? Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Members Constabulary Posted September 14, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 still checking things - todays "challenge": the needle Naaa easy task, right? NOPE! Fortunately one original needle was insert... took a measure... hmmm odd needle system (46.5mm long)... so I thought I set it to 135x17 - as always - easy task I thought... removed some dirt from the NB connector and was looking for the set screw... none on the front, none left, none right - WTF - how did they do this? Taking a very close look at the front side of the NB connector I figured this freakin needle bar is pinned What was todays challenge: the needle finding a needle bar connector for the 7.2mm NB I guess a 31K part with # 24041 could fit - hope I have something similar. But the other end of the connector has to fit to the NB connecting link - hoping Singer didn´t put in another "Special Part" in here (have to check the #) So today we are diving through some junk boxes Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted September 14, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Measure twice - cut once... Always good to compare needles direly and not just by measurements. The orig. needle seems to be something like 29x3 / 332 but with a longer tip. The needle eye is almost in the same position as on 135x17 / 135x16 (just a tad higher here) - so it should work. So no junk box diving today. First test sewing later today.... Edited September 14, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted September 14, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Yep - the135x17 needle works well. Machine works very well, really nice stitches with 140 needle and #25 Aman RASANT thread. Check spring needs to be replaced (oddly bent) but still works. Sooo - I will clean it, replace the check spring and then... I don´t know... A quick video of the 1st sewing attempt after I don´t know how many years or decades. Edited September 14, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members shoepatcher Posted September 14, 2019 Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 Nice C. No kind of thread guide on the needle clamp? glenn Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted September 14, 2019 Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 C, Did you try a system 81 needle in the machine. Little longer than a 135x17 needle. glenn Quote
Members Constabulary Posted September 14, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Right, thread guide on clamp is missing - I think it' s broken off. It´s present on the pictures in my 1st post. Will check if I have a replacement. 135x17 works 81 is longer as you said. I just have checked the Sys. 81 needles I have. I will stick to 135x17. Pretty long stitch length for this machine class I´d say. It comes close to 6mm EDIT: Thread guide replaced - thanks for the hint. Edited September 14, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted September 17, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Cleaned everything, removed all the gunk and dirt crust from the parts.... I washed off everything (inside and outside) with hot a washing soda solution - that worked very well. See first 3 pictures. Clean / fresh solution, then with the added parts after a few minutes and the last pic shows the dirty solution - thats just from the parts shown in the following post. I filled the ugly big paint chip with epoxy (see pics in 1st post). Someone put an 2nd odd pin on the ridge and thats why the paint chipped there - its not lined up with he "original" pin to the right and I think its bubba'ed . For those who do not like my grayish silver paint jobs I decided to keep it black this time and I kept the original decal on the backside. Front decal was mainly worn off so not worth keeping the remains I think. Put some clear black paint coat on so it looks a bit more even now. I still have some original Singer decals so maybe I´ll try to add one of them on the front side.... Edited September 17, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted September 17, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Parts removed and parts cleaned Edited September 17, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
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