toxo Posted September 25, 2019 Report Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) Here's a photo of the nearest I've ever come to a soul mate. She understood everything I said and when I came home she would run off to find my slippers and bring them to me. She died due to the complacency of the vet and I will forever feel guilty because it wasn't her time. She was like an 11yr old puppy. Anyway. I'm using Fireworks MX 2004 and have almost finished erasing the background. I want to turn it into a sketch/line art so I can put it onto leather. I haven't used F/Ws in anger for a long long time but I seem to remember you could do it by taking away more and more colours but I can't do it. Can anyone help? Edited September 25, 2019 by toxo forgot pic Quote
mikesc Posted September 25, 2019 Report Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) Photo did not upload.. Re FW..search "fireworks MX photo to line drawing" and "fireworks MX how to photo to line drawing" Paul..if this is for the laser..? use the "discreet" setting..it will take longer..but it will keep the detail..make test burns on carton* ( paper will burn right through on almost all settings , even white paper ) which is about as "dark" as your leather to get the settings..The paler the thing that you are burning into, the higher your "power setting" has to be..leave depth at 10.. Btw..I ( with the aid of the people who I bought my laser from ) have solved the "text" issue in that software..I'll work up a "how to make and burn text" that matches the version 2.1 software ..pm me here with your outside email, when I have it ready with "step by step"..I'll send it to you...Busy ATM, so It may be a couple of weeks.. * This is why they ship the machines with what they call "craft paper", which in their case, is actually about 200gsm mid brown card stock. Edited September 25, 2019 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
toxo Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Posted September 25, 2019 I've got it this far. Mike I'll look at yours presently. Quote
toxo Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Posted September 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, mikesc said: Photo did not upload.. Re FW..search "fireworks MX photo to line drawing" and "fireworks MX how to photo to line drawing" Paul..if this is for the laser..? use the "discreet" setting..it will take longer..but it will keep the detail..make test burns on carton* ( paper will burn right through on almost all settings , even white paper ) which is about as "dark" as your leather to get the settings..The paler the thing that you are burning into, the higher your "power setting" has to be..leave depth at 10.. Btw..I ( with the aid of the people who I bought my laser from ) have solved the "text" issue in that software..I'll work up a "how to make and burn text" that matches the version 2.1 software ..pm me here with your outside email, when I have it ready with "step by step"..I'll send it to you...Busy ATM, so It may be a couple of weeks.. * This is why they ship the machines with what they call "craft paper", which in their case, is actually about 200gsm mid brown card stock. Thanks Mike. Message sent. The sellers (laser) manufacturer wants a vid of the non input once you wipe the either of the size boxes. I'd like to be able to carve the pic one day but laser for sure if it'll look good. Which pic would you use for laser the photo or the grey? Quote
mikesc Posted September 25, 2019 Report Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) I'd go with the second one ..you could use the first but you'd have to convert to greyscale , or BW half tone and then either "dither" it or run a "half tone" screen.. Got the pm.. I'll copy both pics and sew what I can do with them after eating or tomorrow..If I can get either of them to "burnable", I'll test here on the machine first..What size ( in mm x mm ) Width x Height , do you need as the maximum burn image dimensions ?.. Do you want Misty's name including as an inscription ? She was a Westie ? or a Cairn ?..( they look similar when they are very young ) My wife had a Yorkie when we met ( one of the big ones )..I have an airbrush illustration I did of him when he was a pup somewhere. I read Greyfriar's Bobby when I was about 5..stayed with me..went to see the statue when I was about 17..and again a few times later..great wee dogs..friendly, playful, fierce to defend their family, faithful to the end..and beyond.. Edited September 25, 2019 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
toxo Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Posted September 25, 2019 You're as soppy as I am. She was a Westie. Maybe around 40mm width for my wallet constrain proportions. If you've cracked the text thing a name would be nice. When you say carton do you mean cardboard as in box? Quote
mikesc Posted September 25, 2019 Report Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) OK..began playing with this before I saw your reply..so..I'll get to the name and the exact size later..this size would burn at about 75 mm high x 50 mm wide ..actual lines would be a bit inside that size..I can shrink the "final" image ( with name ) to fit at 40 mm no problem..this is two quick versions.. One "line art", would burn as "black and white" ( basic, I can make it better ) .., The second is basic greyscale pencil type sketch..would burn as "discreet" ( basic, I can make it better, the background is grey Ican shift it to white, so it burns "transparent" )..can add name to either or both.. Going to eat..( finished cooking dinner, wife is giving me the sort of looks your dogs do back later or tomorrow..You can load ( copy and paste ) this type ( .bmp ) into the USB key ( pictures folder ) and then go to the "pictures" folder in there via the touch screen, they'll be at the bottom of the list when you use the buttons to scroll down.. Mistydoglineartsmall - upscale 1000px - line basic 1.bmp Mistydoglineartsmall - upscale 1000px - pencil sketch 1.bmp Edited September 25, 2019 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
mikesc Posted September 25, 2019 Report Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) So that anyone looking in can see the images in a size that the browser will show..I resized them down, to under 1.4mb total for direct display..The ones in the previous post are "burn ready" at 500DPI. and are much larger in data size, so the board here transforms them into "attachments" ( better for board bandwidth) that you can download if you really want to..But they are these images, but higher DPI and larger size.The machine that they are sized for is the one discussed in the thread here here started by toxo. Edited September 25, 2019 by mikesc typo, clarity Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
mikesc Posted September 26, 2019 Report Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) First version with Name added..Burn version is in link.bmp about 2.2mb , ( click to see it, right click and "save image" to download it ) the image fits in 40mm wide with a few mm to spare either side is 994px x 787px.. Image on this page was re-sized to be around 600px x 475px to display here in browsers.You could use it to burn, but it would be smaller. Burn setting "Discrete" if using computer..power around 20-25 depth 10. Burn setting "Greyscale" if using USB key power around 5-10 ( might be less, like power 1 or 2 ) depth 10. Test first by burning onto card ( as cereal packet "cornflakes box", use the inside surface , not corrugated card ) or brownish, card like the piece supplied with the laser, if the leather is darker, you need less power..if it is lighter, you might need a bit more..only increase or decrease power by 2 steps..like 20 to 22, not 20 to 30..Blow the burn clean with your dust blower on the compressor rather than try to brush or wipe any charring dust off when finished. I hope the type style is OK, tried to keep it "light". I have not "test burned" either ..it is 04.00am here..( I'll test later Thursday afternoon ) But they should be OK on the settings I suggest above. Mistydoglineartsmall - upscale 1000px - line basic 1 + NAME BURN 40mm WIDTH.bmp Edited September 26, 2019 by mikesc Corrected file type error Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
toxo Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Posted September 26, 2019 Mike, you are one clever man. God knows how long this would've taken me. Burning as I speak. almost there on card. Extremely anxious about ruining a really nice wallet though. Quote
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