Broken screw

[TomG]

9 hours ago, Frodo said:

10 bucks?

LOL  not worth buying a tap and bit they would cost 20

 

Exactly.
I ordered it today and hopefully Bob was able to get it in today's mail for me. 

[TomG]

29 minutes ago, nylonRigging said:

This what he said ....LOL .  You also pay more for shipping cost than new rod cost , & That exactly what I did on last needle screw that snapped ragged edge and was a NoGo on thread-out . it not that hard to remove and drop new fresh rod in .

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I did notice that it appears that the needle rod won't just drop out of the bottom of the machine. Bob said something about removing a plate or something. I haven't looked at it in depth yet though.
Any tips you'd care to share?

 

[nylonRigging]

 

59 minutes ago, TomG said:

I did notice that it appears that the needle rod won't just drop out of the bottom of the machine. Bob said something about removing a plate or something. I haven't looked at it in depth yet though.
Any tips you'd care to share?

 

Only machine models I have removed and dropped new rods in were guided In/Out top . ( Most Machines ) The Rod just just removes Vert. guide straight Up and out ? . On that cylinder bed, ( 227 consew ) I would think the dogs and bobbin assembly would be in the way to drop out the bottom ? 

Either way, ' by design' if that the way it has to go,  then not that big a deal to disassemble a few things and put back  to replace it . It might suck but if has to be done ( Not much Choice in the mater ) ,then you will also learn a little more about your machine .

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Edited October 18, 2019 by nylonRigging

[TomG]

On 10/17/2019 at 9:58 PM, nylonRigging said:

 

Only machine models I have removed and dropped new rods in were guided In/Out top . ( Most Machines ) The Rod just just removes Vert. guide straight Up and out ? . On that cylinder bed, ( 227 consew ) I would think the dogs and bobbin assembly would be in the way to drop out the bottom ? 

Either way, ' by design' if that the way it has to go,  then not that big a deal to disassemble a few things and put back  to replace it . It might suck but if has to be done ( Not much Choice in the mater ) ,then you will also learn a little more about your machine .

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edit add: ( free shipping ) .. https://www.ebay.com/i/162723734428?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=162723734428&targetid=595076263608&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9032898&poi=&campaignid=6470636535&mkgroupid=77538519077&rlsatarget=pla-595076263608&abcId=1140476&merchantid=110365109&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq-atsNyk5QIVFdVkCh21QgiQEAQYASABEgKLUPD_BwE

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I'm in the process of replacing it now, but kind of stuck. I have the feed dog removed, loosened the clamp screw on it and it drops dpwn just fine.. except it hits the edge of the bobbin assy. I need about 2mm of movement to allow it to completely drop out.  I've removed the screws that I THINK should allow the needle rocker frame to slide a little but it's not budging. I'm not comfortable forcing anything until I know it needs to be forced. That part is the pivot pin that the rocker goes on.
I put in a call to Bob and will probably hear from him sooner or later.

If I find it's OK to pry that pin out a tad, I'll be golden.

 

 

[nylonRigging]

4 hours ago, TomG said:

I'm in the process of replacing it now, but kind of stuck. I have the feed dog removed, loosened the clamp screw on it and it drops dpwn just fine.. except it hits the edge of the bobbin assy. I need about 2mm of movement to allow it to completely drop out.  I've removed the screws that I THINK should allow the needle rocker frame to slide a little but it's not budging. I'm not comfortable forcing anything until I know it needs to be forced. That part is the pivot pin that the rocker goes on.
I put in a call to Bob and will probably hear from him sooner or later.

If I find it's OK to pry that pin out a tad, I'll be golden.

 

 

Ya most definitely don't want to muscle and pry to hard till you get a word from someone mechanical current on that model who has done it before . It Eats a lot of downtime hours with your time on this kind of problem caused by a tiny little part like a broken screw .

Things been going real smooth for me last couple years with machine mechanics, I hate to say anything positive in Fear I will bad JuJu Jinx myself . I been threw that broken screw on needle rod before on other machines , and I remember a couple years back I had the tension push pin lever on machine come loose in mid stride, and jam up, and get bent around, all from it's mount screw working loose . I had to remove and reassemble half the working mechanical guts out behind face-plate to even get my fingers to it, was a PIA for sure .
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[TomG]

12 minutes ago, nylonRigging said:

Ya most definitely don't want to muscle and pry to hard till you get a word from someone mechanical current on that model who has done it before . It Eats a lot of downtime hours with your time on this kind of problem caused by a tiny little part like a broken screw .

Things been going real smooth for me last couple years with machine mechanics, I hate to say anything positive in Fear I will bad JuJu Jinx myself . I been threw that broken screw on needle rod before on other machines , and I remember a couple years back I had the tension push pin lever on machine come loose in mid stride, and jam up, and get bent around, all from it's mount screw working loose . I had to remove and reassemble half the working mechanical guts out behind face-plate to even get my fingers to it, was a PIA for sure .
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Been there. done that on a few mechanical machines. Like I said.. unless I KNOW it's a press fit, I check with others who might know.
I just finished installing the new bar and did OK. It took a little experimenting to figure out how to reassemble, since a couple of parts did not want to cooperate .
The main issue was the very tight tolerances on one of the sliding bars behind the rocking arm. Had to take abreak and ease up on my back, but now going to check the hook timing.
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