Edge Kote rubbing off....solution?

[HondoMan]

Solution found.  Hate to admit it, but I had a bottle here in the shop and forgot it.    Tested it on a piece and there is no rub off, no bleed!  Solution in hand!  Cheers!

[paloma]

[HondoMan]

Ok, back on this topic.... sorry.  This is driving me mad!

I have on hand and have been experimenting with...Fiebings Edge Kote, Tokonole and Eco Flo Edge Flex (Fenice ?).  While I have yet to find a solution, the problem seems to lay with using wax.  Allow me to explain.

Fiebings:  Dyeing the edge, allowing to dry, there is little to no rub off of colour.  Once I use beeswax on the edge, the colour rubs off on a cloth and won't stop, no matter how long I wait.

Edge Flex:  I have found this to be utter expensive shite!   It just peels off like silicone.  Rubbish!

Tokonole:  I have only the clear (or white version).  I have deyed the edges and allowed time to dry.  Minimum of one full day.  No rub off of colour.  Once I apply wax to the edge, the colour rubs off.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what I am missing.  I thought it might have had to do with burnishing, but not the case.  I sand lightly before I dye or apply an edge coat or paint, so I know it is seeping into the leather.

I have tried using the glycerine bar and not.  I have waited days between steps, using and not using canvas, etc.

Can anyone provide a solution to this?  I truly do not understand what I am doing wrong or missing.  I use only vegtan, bridle and harness leather. 

Cheers and have a nice weekend!

Edited January 10, 2020 by HondoMan

[chiefjason]

I ditched edge coat after having it come off a couple spots.  

So back to my old routine with a bit of an addition. 

Dye the edge.  I use Feibings Pro Oil Black.

Burnish with Tokonole.  I love this stuff BTW.  

Apply a beeswax mix to fill in any small imperfections in the edge that did not burnish.  

Two coats of acrylic finish.  I have a couple holsters on the table with a single coat of finish from tonight.  Black edges.  No rub off.  

It sounds like you are testing the edges without adding a finish and expecting the color to hold.  If that's the case you need some type of finish to seal them.  

[HondoMan]

Cheers!  Are you using resolene as a finish coat on the edges?

[JLDetroit]

You might want to give some black or brown Tokonole a go. I love that stuff. Here is an edge I did last night. That is two coats of brown Tokonole. 

[JLDetroit]

I should clarify. I did not dye the edge. I wet sanded the edge and then burnished with water only, followed by two coats of brown Tokonole. 

[Hardrada]

I was afraid of having this problem. So far, can't say I've had it. But maybe it's because I never use wax. Just Edge Kote, sand with 400 grit with a light touch, second coat of Edge Kote, Tokonole and that's all.

[HondoMan]

Tried Resolene (50/50 with water) over the Edge Kote.  Better, but still rub off.

Tokonole over Edge Kote.... that's new.  Worth a wee try.  Odd with the Tokonole are no instructions or recommendations.  Found only one YouTube video.  Nothing more than burnishing, sanding and Tokonole and then wax.

[chiefjason]

I'm using mop and glo mixed 50/50 with water.  But you can do the same with resolene or any number of acrylic finishes.  They are basically the same thing.  I think you just need something that's going to seal the wax and dye up better.