going to step up

[Frodo]

i have made up my mind after hours watching youtube.

going to buy the patcher and a servo motor, with a 2'' pulley and adding a 10'' pulley to the machine

I ''think''  between the singer 66 and the patcher I can make army surplus area correct bags

like these and  canvas holster 

 

 

 

[Gymnast]

Interesting project with this Chinese patcher.

I just looked at two youtube videos, with the use of some domestic sewing machine motors on this patcher, and the speed control seems not that convincing. One of them used a very bad pedal that have 3 speeds (off, half speed and full speed). With such a domestic motor, I think a speed reducer may help. I am not sure, that the motor that you suggest have that good speed control, but it ramps up the moment like on a domestic machine. This video indicate the difference of a brushed servo motor and a brushless servo motor:

However I do feel somewhat nervous, that the high power of the servo motor may damage this small patcher machine. Perhaps that you should use a belt that can slide with ease.

Edited December 6, 2019 by Gymnast

[Matt S]

I own a Singer 99 (shrunken 66) and used to own one of those Chinese patchers. I think you'd be better off saving that money ($200+) towards a more appropriate used/obsolete industrial machine. I've bought several for a similar price, and passed on many more. Even turning over by hand you'll get a better result, and won't be limited by the machine when/if you do want to do other things. For instance you'll find a wider variety of binding attachments for, say, a 111-type machine than you will a Singer 66.

If you do go down this route I'll be interested in seeing the results. I don't do much canvas work ATM but that might change.

[Frodo]

This is he same motor i ordered,  It will use a belt 

Matt, I believe you are correct in that i need a Industrial machine. I get it,

and later on.when money allows, I will most likely go that route. Right now,Cash is tight, So It is what it is

I will start a build thread when the parts come in

Gymnast

I plan on discarding the 3'' pulley replacing it with a 2'' pulley

and adding a 10'' pulley at the machine. I believe this will slow the motor down to a crawl if i choose WITH Torque [maybe] 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2019 by Frodo

[chuck123wapati]

Keep us posted I'm interested in this stuff! heres my sewing machine lol, well one of them.

[Frodo]

nice machine. your garage looks like my barn. scroll saw?   i need another one

 

the old shooting bench will take on a different life. 

and the machine will be mounted on it

Edited December 6, 2019 by Frodo

[Gymnast]

It seems that Big Dog Forge on youtube did try what you like to do, and the result there is impresive to me considering the price of the parts. This chineese patcher seems able to handle pretty thick stuff. Big Dog Forge do also need to use his hand on the wheel now and then while stitching, so the speed control is not perfect there, but much better than the other videos using the domestic motors with no extra speed reducer. I like a controlable speed down to 10 stiches/min, but I suppose it is just me.

[Constabulary]

5 hours ago, Frodo said:

 

 

 

 

Your bags?  Looks like you killed at least one WWII era USMC Poncho and an .30 M-1919 BMG ammo cloth belt for it... I can see some parachute hardware too...

[Frodo]

1 hour ago, Constabulary said:

 

Your bags?  Looks like you killed at least one WWII era USMC Poncho and an .30 M-1919 BMG ammo cloth belt for it... I can see some parachute hardware too...

NO,  that is not my work. I am showing what i am working towards.  . I am actively collecting any old surplus I can get my paws on

I made this ammo bag last night with a 11'' zipper and USGI webbing.  old camo shirt

 

 

[Frodo]

3 hours ago, Gymnast said:

It seems that Big Dog Forge on youtube did try what you like to do, and the result there is impresive to me considering the price of the parts. This chineese patcher seems able to handle pretty thick stuff. Big Dog Forge do also need to use his hand on the wheel now and then while stitching, so the speed control is not perfect there, but much better than the other videos using the domestic motors with no extra speed reducer. I like a controlable speed down to 10 stiches/min, but I suppose it is just me.

I agree.  I want that thing slow. 

I will try and see. 

 

[RemingtonSteel]

Frodo,

I applaud your resourcefulness, in taking on this project.  I think it is a great way for someone with very limited funds (for the time being) to get a leather sewing machine that will stitch through some thick leather.  When reading down in the post, I was tending to agree with Gymnast that you would also need a speed reducer. However after watching Big Dog Forge's video and seeing the patcher operating without a speed reducer, I think you could go either way, but like you said, "try and see".

Regardless good for you for doing this! I look forward to your new thread covering your progress on the project.

Best of Luck,

Steve

 

[Frodo]

Thanks for the encouragement,  

I love building stuff. 

[dikman]

Using a BIG pulley is equivalent to using a reducer, only simpler to make! Ignoring the forging he did (which is not necessary and he obviously only did it because he could) the only possibly trick part is making a new shaft, unless you have a lathe.

Should be an interesting exercise Frodo.