Treesner Report post Posted January 10, 2020 what kind/size of rivet would you recommend for reinforcing this MOLLE webbing belt? It's just stitched on the top and the weight of the bag that gets strapped into the webbing rips it (found out on my previous one). Wondering how I could reinforce it better thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 10, 2020 three things come to mind good old copper rivet, Chicago screws with a washer on both sides or just have someone sew it correctly. if you use rivets make the holes in the webbing with red hot nail or some such the same size as the rivet or it will fray and tear out also. My hunting pack did the same thing, I just sewed mine correctly and it works great. You need tools for the copper rivets, the Chicago screws need some lock-tight and be sure they tighten against the fabric good or they wont help much either. REsewing would be the best IMO I think maybe even add some more material if you think it needs it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treesner Report post Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 12:29 PM, chuck123wapati said: three things come to mind good old copper rivet, Chicago screws with a washer on both sides or just have someone sew it correctly. if you use rivets make the holes in the webbing with red hot nail or some such the same size as the rivet or it will fray and tear out also. My hunting pack did the same thing, I just sewed mine correctly and it works great. You need tools for the copper rivets, the Chicago screws need some lock-tight and be sure they tighten against the fabric good or they wont help much either. REsewing would be the best IMO I think maybe even add some more material if you think it needs it. yeah I guess I could just resew it would the double cap rivets do much? they seem like they might not be wide enough to hold the material down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted January 16, 2020 Treesner, . . . go to your local Joann Fabric store, . . . get this thread, . . . https://www.joann.com/coats-clark-outdoor-200yd-thread/zprd_11744323a.html#q=Coats &start=1 Saddle stitch it at about 6 stitches per inch, . . . and the nylon will rip to the devil and back before you tear out these stitches, . . . unless you are packing anvils or some such. I gave up regular thread years ago and use this exclusively for stuff I sew on my sewing machine (regular type), . . . only problem is if I have to take the seam out, . . . it has to be cut, razor cut, all the way. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Treesner said: yeah I guess I could just resew it would the double cap rivets do much? they seem like they might not be wide enough to hold the material down I think rivets would eventually loosen up in fabric then they just pop through the hole that's why you don't see it done a lot , sewing is the best for fabrics and webbing imo You do it right and you'll never have a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frodo Report post Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) the surrounding material needs to be sewn for heavy canvas use a #22 needle and #138 thread for light canvas use a #20 needle and #69 or #92 thread if the canvas is a pvc or nylon canvas the hole needs to be singed before a rivet is inserted if it is a cotton /cloth canvas it needs to be sewn around the rivet to keep the material from shredding here is a rivet i removed from an italian holster you can see i singed the hole by heating a screwdriver and inserting it into the hole Edited January 16, 2020 by Frodo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treesner Report post Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 3:52 AM, Frodo said: the surrounding material needs to be sewn for heavy canvas use a #22 needle and #138 thread for light canvas use a #20 needle and #69 or #92 thread if the canvas is a pvc or nylon canvas the hole needs to be singed before a rivet is inserted if it is a cotton /cloth canvas it needs to be sewn around the rivet to keep the material from shredding here is a rivet i removed from an italian holster you can see i singed the hole by heating a screwdriver and inserting it into the hole thanks I think I use v69 bonded nylon thread in my sailrite machine when singing the hole do you think just using one of those jet lighters is fine? thats what I usually do before setting in webbing seems to work On 1/15/2020 at 5:25 PM, Dwight said: Treesner, . . . go to your local Joann Fabric store, . . . get this thread, . . . https://www.joann.com/coats-clark-outdoor-200yd-thread/zprd_11744323a.html#q=Coats &start=1 Saddle stitch it at about 6 stitches per inch, . . . and the nylon will rip to the devil and back before you tear out these stitches, . . . unless you are packing anvils or some such. I gave up regular thread years ago and use this exclusively for stuff I sew on my sewing machine (regular type), . . . only problem is if I have to take the seam out, . . . it has to be cut, razor cut, all the way. May God bless, Dwight nice I think I might have used that stuff before I got the sailrite that could handle heavier thread I use v69 bonded nylon thread with like a 20 or 22 needle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck123wapati Report post Posted January 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Treesner said: when singing the hole do you think just using one of those jet lighters is fine? thats what I usually do before setting in webbing seems to work Don't try and melt the hole with the lighter, get a nail or screwdriver, something metal and heat that up with your lighter really hot, itll go through like butter and make sure its the same size as your rivet so you get a tight fit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frodo Report post Posted January 17, 2020 How come I was not issued a like button? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites