Members sinpac Posted January 20, 2020 Members Report Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) That holster looks real familiar. I did a few but the patterns came from Simmons. Edited January 22, 2020 by Northmount Combined 2 posts Quote "It ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 20, 2020 CFM Report Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) rivets back then could have been made by a blacksmith out of mild steel or bought they also had copper rivets. The one in the center looks like a copper rivet with a soft steel washer. On May 20, 1873, Levi Strauss secured a patent for his denim jeans with copper rivets so rivets were available for use. Edited January 20, 2020 by chuck123wapati Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 20, 2020 CFM Report Posted January 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, fredk said: Too much work. Like us, back then the maker didn't want too much extra work. He would have used something handy and commonly available. I'm thinking a small calibre bullet shell, maybe a .22 or .177? Punched thru the leather the empty tube of the shell would have filled with the waste of the belt rather than removing it. or just a round nail and a washer. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members sinpac Posted January 20, 2020 Members Report Posted January 20, 2020 I guess back then, what ever got the job done. Quote "It ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa
Contributing Member fredk Posted January 20, 2020 Contributing Member Report Posted January 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: or just a round nail and a washer. not so, if you look at the rivet, it is hollow and the edge has cracked as it was crimped over - this can be seen more clearly in the photo in the book. Also, hardware like this was being turned out by machines since the 1780s. No smith would bother with making anything so small as a rivet - its too fiddly, too time consuming Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members Mungo Posted January 20, 2020 Author Members Report Posted January 20, 2020 How much of the rivet (hollow type) should be protrude through the leather pieces? Using a 5/16” rivet leaves a little less rhan 2/16” coming through to be peened over. I should probably use a 7/16” rivet, yes? BTW Sinpac, those are beautiful California holsters. Quote
Contributing Member fredk Posted January 20, 2020 Contributing Member Report Posted January 20, 2020 Ideally you would want about 3mm or slightly more available to peen over - thats about 1/8 inch Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members sinpac Posted January 20, 2020 Members Report Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Mungo said: How much of the rivet (hollow type) should be protrude through the leather pieces? Using a 5/16” rivet leaves a little less rhan 2/16” coming through to be peened over. I should probably use a 7/16” rivet, yes? BTW Sinpac, those are beautiful California holsters. Thanks Mungo Quote "It ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa
Members dikman Posted January 21, 2020 Members Report Posted January 21, 2020 From the crimp side they look like eyelets. Just to confuse things I don't see any rivet heads between the loops. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Mungo Posted January 21, 2020 Author Members Report Posted January 21, 2020 It looks like a rivet base between the loops just to the left of the left-most bullet. I think. The photo in the book is slightly clearer than the posted photo. Quote
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