Members Aven Posted August 28, 2020 Members Report Posted August 28, 2020 Scott, when I made my turn shoes I used 8 -9 oz bullhide. The temper was very soft and supple. It worked a treat, but the soles were covered with a mixture of ground rubber and barge cement. This should give you more information. Bison Leather Info Quote
CFM Frodo Posted August 28, 2020 CFM Report Posted August 28, 2020 I use a 5oz for the sole and suede for the upper. you can buy a rabbit pelt if you are making a pair for winter check springfield they run a nice sale every now and then on the pelts Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Members ScottEnglish Posted August 29, 2020 Author Members Report Posted August 29, 2020 Aven: Bullhide. I'll have a look online. Thanks. How durable was the ground rubber and Barge cement soling? Frodo: Thanks for your reply. Moccasins made of rabbit pelt must be nice in the winter! Scott Quote
Members ScottEnglish Posted August 29, 2020 Author Members Report Posted August 29, 2020 Aven: Seems water buffalo is indeed a good substitute for bison. Very helpful for me to know that before I buy more leather. Can bison/buffalo leather be moulded? Thank you. Scott Quote
toxo Posted August 29, 2020 Report Posted August 29, 2020 20 hours ago, Aven said: Scott, when I made my turn shoes I used 8 -9 oz bullhide. The temper was very soft and supple. It worked a treat, but the soles were covered with a mixture of ground rubber and barge cement. This should give you more information. Bison Leather Info Sort of OT but reminded me of a small firm that moved next door to me years ago. They'd come up with the idea of shredding tyres. cleaning and colouring them and with some kind of resin they would float the stuff all around your swimming pool to give a warm, non slip and of course waterproof surface. I remember thinking I wish I'd thought of that. Quote
Members Aven Posted August 29, 2020 Members Report Posted August 29, 2020 7 hours ago, ScottEnglish said: Aven: Bullhide. I'll have a look online. Thanks. How durable was the ground rubber and Barge cement soling? Frodo: Thanks for your reply. Moccasins made of rabbit pelt must be nice in the winter! Scott The soling has held up decently for me. How it will hold up for you is a matter of several things, such as how you walk, what you walk on, how often you wear them, and of course how you applied the soling. Applying it can be a bit tricky. You have to mix up the amount of rubber you think you will need and stir that into just enough Barge to hold it together. But while you are stirring to coat all the granules well, the glue is flashing off. You have to get the granules completely coated, but with just enough glue to hold it all together and then smeared onto the sole before it hardens on you. It can't have too much glue, be too wet or it will just make a mess of things. If you underestimated what you needed, just do a second layer. The soling treatment is more comfortable than walking on a sidewalk barefooted, but it doesn't offer the same cushioning as a pair of runners. And it isn't overly durable. If you wore them daily on concrete or asphalt, you will probably have to redo the soling a couple of times a year. But its easy enough to do, just messy. 2 hours ago, toxo said: Sort of OT but reminded me of a small firm that moved next door to me years ago. They'd come up with the idea of shredding tyres. cleaning and colouring them and with some kind of resin they would float the stuff all around your swimming pool to give a warm, non slip and of course waterproof surface. I remember thinking I wish I'd thought of that. Not really. It's the same concept. The person who taught me how to make the turn shoes would take a five gallon bucket to a place nearby that retreaded tires and ask if he could scoop up some of the grindings. It was the mess they made from grinding the old tread off, so it was waste, but they weren't always keen to have him in the building. The grindings were different sizes and there were always bits of steel in the mix. From that 5 gallon bucket, after the sifting was done, there might be a gallon bucket or two of finely ground rubber. Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted August 29, 2020 Members Report Posted August 29, 2020 The red deer, which is very common in Scotland, is a close relative of the North American elk, and I'm sure its hide would be a good substitute. Quote
Members Aven Posted August 29, 2020 Members Report Posted August 29, 2020 This video is a good tutorial on how to do it. It isn't quite what I was taught, but it looks like it will work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzDFbvdIP7E Quote
Members ScottEnglish Posted August 30, 2020 Author Members Report Posted August 30, 2020 Thanks Aven for the information about ground rubber and Barge cement soling. And the link to the video. Sheilajeanne: I didn't know red deer were related to North American elk. Thank you. Scott Quote
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