Another hello from France

[toxo]

2 hours ago, Klara said:

Thanks to a mention here in the forums I've already found lure coursing collars. I think they are a brilliant idea and I just ordered the D rings to make some. But they are not for taking the dog on a walk. Well, I suppose one could, but then one would have to take off the collar to release the dog and I've learned the hard way that it's easier to grab a dog if it is wearing a collar (or harness). I have a short lead that has simply a loop at one end and I pull the other end through to attach the lead to the collar, but that is a short lead. I'm looking for a brilliant idea for leads of 3 m and more... But I think there is just no way guess the various snap hooks have been invented for a reason.

I remembered the name Pelican hook from my sailing days long ago. Might give you some inspiration.

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AOHY_enGB783GB783&q=pelican+hook&tbm=isch&chips=q:pelican+hook,g_1:quick+release:Xm_qFvuBYcc%3D&usg=AI4_-kQc_4kihO_CWqDPPJAgUaUoACQ8bg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjuoIu70NrvAhWLa8AKHRXnD9IQgIoDKAB6BAgFEAY&biw=1600&bih=813

Edited March 31, 2021 by toxo

[Klara]

Thanks, but that's still metal. And probably too heavy for my purposes,  if it's used on boats... I'm thinking about knots, loops, toggles (just thought of them right now, might that lead somewhere?)...

[fredk]

There are commercially available extending dog leads. They are made of nylon webbing with a nylon snap hook. The lead extends from 0m to 50m (and sometimes more) and can be retracted into its case automatically 

[toxo]

3 hours ago, Klara said:

Thanks, but that's still metal. And probably too heavy for my purposes,  if it's used on boats... I'm thinking about knots, loops, toggles (just thought of them right now, might that lead somewhere?)...

I was thinking about looking at some of the principles. Maybe they don't have to be metal. I'm not sure what you want this collar to do but off the top of my head imagine the main part of this hook to be a stiff piece of leather folded back on itself. now imagine the main leash just attached to the oval retainer. Now imagine a short length of bungee rubber attached to the eye and sewn onto the main leash in such a way as to leave an amount of slack in the main leash when the rudder is taut but not pulled. The idea being when walking the dog the rubber is taking the strain. When you want a quick release you pull on the leash, stretching the rubber enough for the main leash to slip the oval to let the dog run free. It's a bit rough but I've only just thought of it and merely offered as an example of what might be done.

[Klara]

I'm not sure whether there is anything rubber that can hold a borzoi that wants to get away. And quick release is not the main point. But still, we might be getting somewhere... Let's imagine the (end of the) lead was a solid strip of leather. With a slit at it at the very end and a toggle sown to the leather a bit higher up. Then I could pull the slit through the ring on the collar and "button" it to the toggle. And then probably the slit would tear when the dog pulls really hard?

Maybe a button (or a knot?) at the very end of the strip of leather and a leather strip/ring around both parts of the loop (pretty much like the pelican hook)???

Thanks, toxo, you've given me ideas to think about. I'll experiment (lots of time over the next month or two, we have another lockdown) and let you know the result!

 

[toxo]

FWIW Klara the bungee idea is incorporated in many yacht mooring/anchor lines to eliminate "snatch" when the boat is dancing on the waves. it would save your arm somewhat when he's pulling. You would have to trial & error to find the strength of bungee needed to hold the dog without releasing unintentionally. Good luck and don't forget to come back and show the result with pics. We love pics on here.

There was someone who did really awesome sighthound tooled collars on here. Think they were from an Eastern Bloc country. Can anyone find it for Klara?

 

[Klara]

I believe I have seen them, I looked through most of the dog collar threads. But most tooling doesn't really appeal to me. Fortunately,  as that means that for the moment I can concentrate on cutting and sewing and possibly riveting 

(That said, I am already beginning to wonder how to get a borzoi motiv on a collar, so who knows what will happen...)

 

[Klara]

And another one. I took the first one apart, kept the leather with the rings sewn on, changed its shape to that from the second, and glued some lamb nappa(?) on the outside and thin leather from my stock on the inside, with the edges folded over and glued. Then I sewed the edges together around the middle layer. The stitching is spotty because I plied and cabled some metallic goldeb thread with the red one. I wanted a golden seam around the edge, but the thread as is is far from solid enough. Oh well, if the red leather stands up to wear, I'll try something else next time...

[Klara]

Slowly I'm getting there. But I feel that 6 mm padding is too much....

 

[Klara]

The last one for the moment, I'm out of D-rings. It should be solid enough for everyday wear.

 

Edited April 26, 2021 by Klara
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