What kind of Singer Machine did I buy ?

[Oldiesfan]

Is there somebody who can tell me what kind of machine this is and how old ?

And when possible explain me please the mechanism on top near food tension.  It seems that you can lower this into a hole .

 

Maybe a manual?

 

Thanks 

Edited August 8, 2021 by Oldiesfan

[jimi]

Looks like a 34k post bed and the part that goes in the hole should connect with some kind of cam on the inside which will raise the roller wheel every turn of the shaft.

Just found this....Folker restored one of these  

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by jimi

[kgg]

2 hours ago, Oldiesfan said:

and how old

According to ISMACs the serial number with no letter prefix dates the machine to 1892.

http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-no-prefix-serial-numbers.html

kgg

[Oldiesfan]

On 8/8/2021 at 8:30 PM, kgg said:

According to ISMACs the serial number with no letter prefix dates the machine to 1892.

http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-no-prefix-serial-numbers.html

kgg

Thanks ! for the answer to my question. 

That's very old .

[Oldiesfan]

On 8/8/2021 at 7:54 PM, jimi said:

Looks like a 34k post bed and the part that goes in the hole should connect with some kind of cam on the inside which will raise the roller wheel every turn of the shaft.

Just found this....Folker restored one of these  

 

Thanks for the reply 

You're answer is correct !

I lowered it into the hole and tightened the bold . When turning the wheel and at some point the roller foot is raising. 

 

This machine's weight is 27 Kilo .

[Oldiesfan]

Does somebody have a correct User Manual for this machine ? 

Soon I need to clean it in a decent way . When i bought it nothing was moving . With  heat and wd40 it came loose. For now everything is moving and it picks up the thread . That's a good start for the beginning .

I bought this one for a scrap metal price . 5 € 

[Constabulary]

I have one - please send me a PM with your email address

If the hook is missing the machine is using the large 29K hooks as for the singer 29K60, 29K72 or Adler 30-7

[henryleo025]

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[Oldiesfan]

42 minutes ago, henryleo025 said:

Singer has launched many superb sewing machine till now. It all depends on what kind of sewing machine you are using. I personally Prefer Singer Stylist 7258. You can read the full review here.

 For me it's just a hobby . And i like the old heavy industrial  cast iron machines . Not only the Singers . 

Modern machines are to expensive and no money is coming back when I would buy one . No work for it . 

 

[Oldiesfan]

1 hour ago, Constabulary said:

I have one - please send me a PM with your email address

If the hook is missing the machine is using the large 29K hooks as for the singer 29K60, 29K72 or Adler 30-7

 

Thanks ! A pm is send .

 

I'm not looking for the parts manual ! That one is already downloaded .

 

A user manual is what I'm looking for .

[Oldiesfan]

The mechanism for raising up the roller foot is especially for ? 

Under what kind of circumstances do use it . And with what kind of materials? 

[jimi]

1 hour ago, Oldiesfan said:

The mechanism for raising up the roller foot is especially for ? 

Under what kind of circumstances do use it . And with what kind of materials? 

I would imagine to help keep the stitch length even when turning corners etc..if you do a circle with a roller foot it will have a larger stitch length on the outside curve and a smaller on the inside unless it has a gear on the roller like some newer ones do. On machines without it you would use the knee lift to do the same thing....but i could be wrong??  €5!  well done.

Edited August 10, 2021 by jimi

[jimi]

On 8/8/2021 at 5:43 PM, Oldiesfan said:

Maybe a manual?

 Unfortunately things have gone crazy expensive from the UK but you don´t see this everyday! Looks like the 45k arm version of the 34k  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165004052548?hash=item266b020844:g:~lMAAOSwKEthDRHP

[Oldiesfan]

@Constabulary thanks for the manual in pdf . I already printed it and every page is sharp . The images as well .

[Oldiesfan]

6 hours ago, jimi said:

 Unfortunately things have gone crazy expensive from the UK but you don´t see this everyday! Looks like the 45k arm version of the 34k  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165004052548?hash=item266b020844:g:~lMAAOSwKEthDRHP

A User manual in pdf is already arrived and printed . See quote above.  

Maybe someday I'll vind one in paper .

Parts manuals in paper are not number one on my search list . 

Edited August 12, 2021 by Oldiesfan

[Oldiesfan]

Rare !? There's no brass plate with class 34k1 or ? mentioned on this machine .

It looks as if there never was a plate . Only the Singer logo in brass .

[jimi]

15 hours ago, Oldiesfan said:

Rare !? There's no brass plate with class 34k1 or ? mentioned on this machine .

It looks as if there never was a plate . Only the Singer logo in brass .

I think that since there is no decals left then it has been repainted so the holes are probably covered over with paint.

[Handstitched]

That is just....beeeeautiful ...*sobsniff*.

So what sort of leather/ production would this machine have sewn in its day?

On 8/11/2021 at 12:52 AM, Oldiesfan said:

I bought this one for a scrap metal price . 5 € 

They had no idea what they were selling. 

HS

[Oldiesfan]

On 8/13/2021 at 9:27 AM, jimi said:

I think that since there is no decals left then it has been repainted so the holes are probably covered over with paint.

Some parts of the decals on top are still visible. It's repainted yes , but in a very bad way . There's a lot of the repaint gone . So I could check the machine in a easy way . At last i used a magnification glass as a second opinion.  No holes , nothing . In that area is only a very thin layer original paint left . 

 

For now i cleaned a lot off parts in a ultrasoon cleaner .

And they look great .

[Oldiesfan]

6 hours ago, Handstitched said:

That is just....beeeeautiful ...*sobsniff*.

So what sort of leather/ production would this machine have sewn in its day?

They had no idea what they were selling. 

HS

 

What kind of materials this machine was sewing a long time ago,  i don't no .

Maybe someone els knows that .

 

How much would a machine like this cost ? On Ebay or as collectable? 

 

[henryleo025]

On 8/10/2021 at 11:52 PM, Oldiesfan said:

 For me it's just a hobby . And i like the old heavy industrial  cast iron machines . Not only the Singers . 

Modern machines are to expensive and no money is coming back when I would buy one . No work for it . 

 

what kind of sewing machine you are looking for? Also the fabric you want to wok on?

[Oldiesfan]

47 minutes ago, henryleo025 said:

what kind of sewing machine you are looking for? Also the fabric you want to wok on?

I look for everything that i like . Most of the time they come on my path . On flee markets,  Carbootsales etc .

When i use the machines that i already have i sew everything.  Most of the time thick material's. A Pfaff 130 for regular the normal stuff. 

In use  Singer 132k6, Singer 132ksv18 roller-foot with reverse , Singer 45K89 converted into a roller-foot version and now recent that Singer 34K type from 1892 . And this one i think is not for heavy materials !? But i could be wrong .

The Singer 132Ksv18 did cost me quite a bit of money. But that was included a lot of materials .

Needles en yarn as well. 

For that one i paid 500 € .

Edited August 14, 2021 by Oldiesfan

[Handstitched]

@Oldiesfan I think it sews boots, and other 'awkward' stitches. 

I'm kinda envious now  

HS

[Oldiesfan]

1 hour ago, Handstitched said:

@Oldiesfan I think it sews boots, and other 'awkward' stitches. 

I'm kinda envious now  

HS

think that there are a lot of these 34k versions on the market !? Not always for scrap prices but for nice prices. 

 

For shoes and inside rucksacks or other not to big  repairs i use ( i forgot to mention it before ) an Adler 30-1 machine. A nice one and fully functional . It does 4.5 from the 5 mm stitch length, that's nice after so many years . 

O ... In the barn we have a fully dismantled Adler 30-7.

And the Bobbin case out of that machine seems to fit into the Singer 34K . 

Edited August 16, 2021 by Oldiesfan

[jimi]

2 hours ago, Oldiesfan said:

think that there are a lot of these 34k versions on the market !?