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5 minutes ago, Spyros said:

Everybody in the machine stitching world will try to stir you to thinner and thinner thread

What machine do you use?

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Just now, ToddW said:

What machine do you use?

One of those big cylinder arm machines they use for saddle stitching, the cowboy cb4500.  I think it's essentially the same as the one you're looking at but with a longer arm.

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1 minute ago, Spyros said:

I think it's essentially the same as the one you're looking at but with a longer arm.

cool.. I do wallets, journals but also do bags.. the cobra class 26 seemed pretty good with the optional table bed for that..

I am also wanting to make a shotgun case like the one attached.. playing around with design now but like the prominent stitching. The runs on that are pretty long.

 

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Yeah the long stitching runs on belts straps and things like that is usually where people start to question the value of hand stitching...

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17 hours ago, Spyros said:

I'm (slowly) going in the opposite direction.  I bought a sewing machine, and in all honesty I can't visually tell the machine stitching apart from my own hand stitching.  And if I can't tell it apart then I'd struggle to convince anybody that it's better.  I mean I could argue it's stronger but I'm using such thick thread that any extra strength due to the saddle stitching is probably irrelevant for most peoples' use.  I don't see the point to hand stitching any more.  I was watching a video by Hermes and it was showing how they machine stitch watch straps, but they finish the last three stitches by hand, both for finishing look and for strength purposes, and that makes sense to me and I've started doing the same.  There will always be other handstitched areas, places I can't reach with the machine, and keeping the look of all stitching consistent on the same project is a bit of a struggle, but it is possible.


I personally have found that my customers have become more and more intune with the product they're purchasing. As in, they ask now if something is handstitched.

The argument about strength is honestly negligible at this point, 92 wt thread on a sewing machine or .8mm ritza. Although from a marketing perspective, customers due tend to gravitate towards solutions in things that people have fears of. Like selling someone on handstitching because they have fears of losing their investment in a machine stitched wallet. The same idea as RFID blocking technology so much so that there has been zero RFID crimes. Huge market towards it.

I do like the look of being able to put a larger thread on a thinner piece.

We're also at the point in our business were we just sold a 300$ watch band that was laser cut and hand stitched in under an hour. I'm ok with that.

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6 minutes ago, Gulrok said:

I cut large bags on it. Its the table size I was after.

I do bags as well but really struggle with the machine being so big I can't put it anywhere.  My leather room is upstairs and my garage is a 2 car with 2 cars in it.  Budge aside, I would LOVE your machine.  I am going to have to rely on the front feeding and width of the cutting area..

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On 2/2/2022 at 2:31 PM, ToddW said:

I do bags as well but really struggle with the machine being so big I can't put it anywhere.  My leather room is upstairs and my garage is a 2 car with 2 cars in it.  Budge aside, I would LOVE your machine.  I am going to have to rely on the front feeding and width of the cutting area..


I understand. I think that a smaller laser would work just fine. I wanted the option of just putting a big side/bend on it and letting it go crazy. It has worked out so far. 

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