Contributing Member fredk Posted February 25, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Spyros said: . . . Or you just eyeball them? . . . When I make these hats using soft thin-ish [about 1.3mm thick] upholstery grade leather I eye-ball the stitching. Usually I don't even mark the stitching line. The leather is so soft I use a sharp glover's needle, sewing from the top down firstly then [hopefully] using the same holes back to the top and tie off the thread. Roughly 10 minutes per seam hand sewn. The seam is on the inside, no-one really sees it or inspects it and as I've gone both ways with the stitching any irregularities in the spacing is covered up Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Contributing Member fredk Posted February 25, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Spyros said: . . . No reason to start from the other side, and no reason to start from the last hole and work your way backwards towards yourself. People can simply do the opposite, like I do... 18 minutes ago, tsunkasapa said: . . . but the old guys at the saddle shop I used to hang out at as a kid did it R to L, and 'near to far' so to speak. When using my clamp thingy I sew right to left and away from me/near to far Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
CFM tsunkasapa Posted February 25, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, fredk said: When using my clamp thingy I sew right to left and away from me/near to far Thingy is a 'Technical' term. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
Members Spyros Posted February 25, 2022 Members Report Posted February 25, 2022 Fred and Tsunkasapa have done this so many times they can probably stitch behind their back just by feel Quote
CFM tsunkasapa Posted February 25, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 25, 2022 56 minutes ago, Spyros said: Fred and Tsunkasapa have done this so many times they can probably stitch behind their back just by feel That's a bit hard on the fingers, all those pointy things and all. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 25, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Spyros said: But even when you're using an awl, don't you have to first use a separate tool anyway to mark the holes, like a pricking iron or a wheel? Or you just eyeball them? About enlarging the holes. It's a redundant step, that was exactly the whole point of my long post earlier. Enlarging holes with their right hand needle is what some people do on those videos, because they insist on starting the stitch with their left hand on the back side, which is where the exit holes are, which are barely visible. As I was saying, I disagree with those videos, because nobody has to do that. I always start from the side where the chisels first pierced the leather, which is typically the skin side, and those holes are plenty enlarged and well formed and clearly visible. They practically suck the needle in. No reason to start from the other side, and no reason to start from the last hole and work your way backwards towards yourself. People can simply do the opposite, like I do... Do it how ever you want to i'm not going to argue the point any longer if you think adding a couple steps in the process is faster then go ahead and do it that way most beginers do until they get good at sewing. I did i still do but the fact reamains taking less steps is always going to be faster. As i said to tug and you probably read but decided to re state any way. i used the wrong word in enlage, you have to re open them that is what a diamond chisel does it cuts a slit but the shape opens a hole in the center after a few minutes it closes and has to be reopened either with the needles or an awl of some sort. thats what diamond awls and chisels do thats why the hole closes after you sew it up thats why you hammer it a bit to set the thread and close the holes. i also wrote this to tug. Most of the miscommunication comes from us because we all make diferent products with diferents leathers and diferent personal opinions. Beating a chisel through three layers of 10 oz is not the same as running a chisel around the edge of a 2mm wallet and takes alot longer to do than just useing an awl and neither is sewing the two the same by any means. I can easily sew a wallet without re-opening the holes not so much with a holster. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Spyros Posted February 25, 2022 Members Report Posted February 25, 2022 Yeah but you're still telling me that I added steps, and I still have no idea what those steps are. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 25, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spyros said: Yeah but you're still telling me that I added steps, and I still have no idea what those steps are. i'm sure you will figure it out. good luck! Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Spyros Posted February 25, 2022 Members Report Posted February 25, 2022 nah I'm good, thanks anyway Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 25, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Spyros said: nah I'm good, thanks anyway i doubt that but its your story Now back on topic please so the person asking the question doesn't think all we do is agrue about stupid shit. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
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