Rock76 Report post Posted October 12, 2010 I know this is a long shot, but does anybody have any examples (or any advice on where I can find examples) of stitches made with a 794 spear point needle? I'm curious to see how they look when compared to the 794 triangle points. Thanks! -Adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampbellRandall Report post Posted October 12, 2010 Needles Needles (PDF) See the above link. The pictures for the S and P point are inversed, but that should be a good representation. - Dan Naegle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock76 Report post Posted October 12, 2010 Thanks, Dan! That is exactly what I was looking for. Much appreciated! -Adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinOaks Report post Posted October 15, 2010 Great info!!! Now I know what type of needle I need to get. I'm checking to see if we can pin this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregg From Keystone Sewing Report post Posted June 14, 2011 Nice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KAYAK45 Report post Posted January 26, 2012 THIS NEEDS TO BE PINNED, IF ANYTHING DOES! Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtwister09 Report post Posted January 26, 2012 Adam, Here's something that I have been sharing with some other people that have Adler 205's for the past 3-4 years. It was compiled from various sources such as Groz Beckert, Schmetz, Organ and many of the vendors who sell needles like Dan. I tried compiling all of the various vendors and what needles they provide in the 794 class. All pictures are copyright of their respective companies and trademark names mentioned are owned by their respective companies as well. This is a compiled work with individual comments. Adler 794 System Information Compiled Rev C.pdf Regards, Ben Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock76 Report post Posted January 29, 2012 Adam, Here's something that I have been sharing with some other people that have Adler 205's for the past 3-4 years. It was compiled from various sources such as Groz Beckert, Schmetz, Organ and many of the vendors who sell needles like Dan. I tried compiling all of the various vendors and what needles they provide in the 794 class. All pictures are copyright of their respective companies and trademark names mentioned are owned by their respective companies as well. This is a compiled work with individual comments. Adler 794 System Information Compiled Rev C.pdf Regards, Ben Ben, Thanks so much for sharing that! VERY thorough compilation. -Adam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtwister09 Report post Posted March 3, 2012 Adam, Glad that you liked it. After several years I guess I could update it but I haven't got around to it. Hopefully others will get some benefit out of it. Dan always has good information on his site as well. Regards, Ben Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muzzleblast Report post Posted April 16, 2014 Rock76, Sir, thank you. Thank you very much. I truly appreciate your generosity in sharing this valuable information with the Leatherworker community. As the recent owner of a Juki 441 clone, I have been researching needles to experiment with. You have saved me many hours of "googling" and note taking. Thank you again. You "Rock" indeed. Yours, Muzzleblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock76 Report post Posted April 17, 2014 Muzzleblast, I sure appreciate the gratitude, but thanks should go to CampbellRandall and gtwister09, who were able to provide the great info, as well as TwinOaks for getting it pinned. But for what it's worth, I'm glad my question was useful to some folks. -Adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverbullet Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Thanks help make sence of the different sew patterns made by the needle. Pin this for sure. Gary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharon Mallory Report post Posted October 19, 2014 Wow a lot of information here! Overwhelmed now. Still don't understand the 7 x 3 verses the 7 x 4 that's on my needle package. Brain doesn't work for this:( I need to get a size 22 for the c4. So much work went into this compilation it's amazing and thorough! Wow! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted October 19, 2014 THESE PEOPLE list 794 needles down to size 19. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharon Mallory Report post Posted October 19, 2014 Thank you very much. Bought some!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) We stock them down to size #18 Edited October 20, 2014 by CowboyBob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoosterShooter Report post Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) What needle type is recommended for a Nylon to Leather sewing application where a piece of nylon webbing is sandwiched in between 2 pieces of leather on a Cowboy CB3200? Edited December 31, 2014 by RoosterShooter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted December 31, 2014 If you want the stitch to look nice,I would use a leather point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Anyone got a source for 794 needles, size 24 and 25, with an LL point? Bob, Steve, Campbell-Randall, and even ebay all checked with no use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docado Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Hello JLS I found some on eBay. Seller was Cutex. They will sell 10 or 100. With 100, you can choose different sizes in bundles of 10. They were $86. Shipped. Organ 794 nw LL point. I haven't tried them yet, but they appear to be fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docado Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Here is a link to same company. http://www.cutexsewingsupplies.com/100-organ-7x4nw-dyx3ll-singer-7-class-leather-point-sewing-machine-needles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted April 3, 2015 They were $86. Shipped. Organ 794 nw LL point. I haven't tried them yet, but they appear to be fine. Appreciate the refer, but I've ordered those, and the needle listed is NOT the one you will receive in size 23 (though the 24 was correct). I wrote and asked why I got some in LL and some in LR point. Reply states they do NOT have the #23 in LL point. Offered to do a return on the LR they sent, but do NOT have the LL at all. Just so you know before you order Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herbworff Report post Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) 794 vs 794 Serv 1 Finally figured out. I searched every where for the differences in these two needle specs. Thanks to Campbell-Randall the question is solved (I hope). The needles are basically the same shank diameter & OAL(length). The Serv 1 has a shorter shank length allowing for a longer thread grove (Tippmann Boss sews up to 3/4" thickness). The difference is about 5 mm. Top of shank to thread hole is 60 mm. I can't imagine 3/4" of leather thickness. I find the standard 794 to work fine in my Boss & the 794 is easier to find with more point options. I hope the picture helps. Herb Edited February 13, 2016 by herbworff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
