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I used to have an Adler shoe patching machine. I loved that thing but didn't use it that much. I finally sold it and have regretted it ever since. A shoe patcher is one of this machines that does a job that, simply, nothing else can duplicate. If you've ever had one you almost can't do without one again. That Adler was a good one!

I studied up on the K21 a bit and it IS very similar to the K69; even the stitch length parameters are the same. I am pretty much convinced that a standard straight set of feed dogs will fit. Like you, I am also convinced that no needle plate will fit except the one that is on it. I do, however , think I can get the trade school here to make a plate that will work. That way I can reverse any modifications that are done and bring the machine back to original. I could sell it and buy a Ga5-1 model of some type or other but for me it is all about having a cylinder arm machine on a treadle base. I don't want to seperate the two components at this late stage in history. To me that would be tragic. Thanks all for walking me through this. now let's ssseeeee . . . . .

I already have a pic of this on another thread but thought it pertinent to put it here as well because it is a bit odd and in very complete condition. This was Singers attempt at a sole stitcher. mainly used for half soling I've heard. And a good picture of the bobbin winder

I would love to figure out how to put reverse on my #7! BTW that is a very nice machine. I'd like to see a close up of the foot on that bugger.

It is pretty much complete . . .and it is a nice machine. I doubt I'd go through the work involved to change it much. I would like to find a regular set of feed dogs that would fit. If I could do that I would have a small, flat plate made at the school. After you see the pictures below you may agree that the basic pattern of the feed dogs are, if not the same very similar to that of the K25. The K69 feed dogs are definitely rounded on the bottom side. See for yourself. I tried to get good enough pictures so you can read the numbers as well.

Evo160K If you have one could you post a picture of a set of k25 feed dogs & presser foot? Anyone for that matter. Thanks,

OK, I thought there was no interest in this old machine as I wasn't getting any responses in my email.I thought I'd check back and look at the original post to see if there was a better place to post it. I didn't have email response set up I guess. I appreciate all the responses and here are a couple photos that were either asked for or may help in my search. This machine originally took a flat plate that was curved to the outside edge. The plate that's on it has been modified and filled in on the outer edge. The feed dogs are also curved to the outer edge and these feed dogs are original. I suppose what I need to do now is just take the feed dogs out so I can compare them to some of the ones suggested above. Anyone want to see anything else just let me know. I can take pics. of pretty much anything. Again thanks guys,

This is a sole stitcher made by Singer years ago. It is on a treadle stand and works good; as good as one of these works anyway. They weren't much of a sole stitcher really; nothing like a Landis anyway. Worked alright for repair work I suppose. I have ground out the adjustment for the stitch length so it makes a much longer stitch now. What I'm wondering is if I can change the feed dogs and foot so it can be used like a regular cylinder arm. Thanks Guys

I know this is over a year old but wondering if you ever sold that Landis #1? I'm in South Dakota. Gus

Disregard this post; I see you already have one for sale !! I'm about 150 miles from your location in SD. Would you consider trading for a heavy flatbed machine of the Singer Class 7 variety!

Walter is right; it looks complete to me as well. It may need some minor adjusting.

Just a suggestion: After looking at your pics. I'd think a lighter sewing machine; like a Singer 31-15 or 31-20 w/roller foot would be in order. Along with a guide and lighter thread. With a good eye and the original clutch motor on said machine you could get by without a guide; if you were careful.

It's interesting that they'd put two of those big bobbins in this flatbed. There must be a whole fistful of hardware under the table of one of those things. I'd love to see one.

Well that's a relief!

I'm not completely familiar with this machine but most double needle machines have smaller bobbins. Simply a result of having two of them rather than one. However, if it is a good enough buy it may be worth it. That being said, if it is that reasonably priced you could use it until you sell it and use the proceeds to buy what you really would like to have.

Depending on how they're set up; I've seen them used on more than one occasion for boat tarp repair & awning construction.

I just bookmarked the page. Can't wait to take the virtual tour. Nice job so far Wiz!!

It wouldn't take much to get me toe sell this machine. I don't particularly need a soling machine; although it stitches pretty good. It needs some fine tuning is all. Interesting thing about this machine is it had a wax pot on it that has a gas burner under it. If you look in the pictures it is the pot behind the bobbin winder. The hand crank bobbin winder & this gas powered wax pot are connected to the same bracket. You can see it pretty well in the2nd, 3rd & 4th pictures above. I'll have to flip the winder upside down & get a pic. of that burner so you'se can see it.

OK, I went after that sole stitcher It has quite a history surrounding it. The old boy I got it from is a WWII vet going into assisted living. 30 some odd years ago he got it from a farmer that had the head in the grainery and the treadle stand he rescued off the rock pile out by the field. The table top was de-laminated pretty badly so he used it as a pattern to make a new one from plywood. The old boy that had it in his grainery said it was his Grandpa's. His grandpa used it to repair harness tugs for himself and the neighbors in the area west of Fargo, ND. That had to be a few years ago. The story bears true as there is a modified flat plate and foot in a bag of trinkets that came with it; along with the original tapered plate and sole foot on the machine. You can't see it in the pics but the feed dogs are tapered to the left; apparently to keep the shoe or boot from feeding into the needle. This arrangement makes it very difficult to stitch in a straight line with this machine. The manual bobbin winder is interesting. Anyway here are a few pics.

Bob, The Management here says you're naughty. Anyway I got on my knee's and said :begging:and the management buckled!! I'm going after it tomorrow.

The management would kill me!! She's just looked over my shoulder & grabbed me by the ear!!!

nice machine: congrats. Have fun being creative.

This is a beautiful machine there is no doubt. But as big as it is and as far away from home as it is and the fact that it only stitches 1/4" length stitches; I simply can't use it. I only get home every two weeks; I simply don't want to drive the 125 miles just to pick up a table connected to a piece of junk I'll have to separate & throw away.

Are the needles still available for it? Can round work be done on it other than doing soles or is it job specific? It's funny; I did boot & shoe work for quite a few years & never heard of it until now. A shoe soling machine that isn't a needle and awl machine is a little different too. I wonder how much success Singer had with that idea? I can pick this thing up complete with treadle table & all for 1 bill. I'm just wondering if it would be a $100 boat anchor or if it will work OK for some hobby round work. I need something inexpensive to sew leather bottoms in my canvas packs. I've been doing it on a flat bed but it's a bit tricky. The seam would come out more professional looking on a cylinder-arm.

I know the 45K69 is a cylinder arm machine. What I can't find is any info on specifications or specific uses of this machine. Thanks,