Thank you much for the kind comments. Joe, sleep is overrated. Not really, in truth I'm pretty low production. The chains are a pretty common design & turned out to be pretty simple, but I find them priced between $45 & $ 100 on the net. With a little more practice I'll be able to make a set in about 1/2 hr. but because of the design of my reins I didn't need to make any swivels or S hooks, which would require more time. Monica, I checked out your site, very cool stuff & nice workmanship. Thank you all again, Buck