Thanks, I saw they were out of the 3850. After a lot of thought, I think I am going with CB4500, because after you add a few options, not a ton more money. I was contacted by Solar, but got to wait until Monday to see what shipping will be. I am just confused about if I need any of the optional needle plates. I do leather as a hobby and made me a holster, now everyone wants one, I have been hand sewing and it's getting a bit much. Thanks for the help