thank you am happy how turned out for 1st hat, even if I might notice some flaw or flaws something I am sure other people who makes items can see in own projects yet otheres do not see. with you saying not all leather is the same, I am sure each hat might not come out as nice, still looking at adding the edge around the brim just not sure if might make it not look as nice if I do so. I am sure the more you work with leather the more you notice each hide is not the same & some you might plan to make one item yet is more suited for other item.