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I think it’s very helpful what you do. Knowing price points like this can make one feel great when better deal found

OOH-vuh Doing more reading and found your post about new Consew 206RB-5 vs Seiko counterpart. If I want quality made in Japan - I can just get this Seiko for $1300 or so, then top range you posted ($1200) for used 206RB-2 kind of pointless, no?

Machine is from owner, not from shop. No patina/rust which is good sign for me. Other than that - it's lottery anyway. But at least this one is not some basement stored for ages machine

What would be a good price for good confition 206RB-2 with sewquiet 3000 dc motor?

So, the only way to try and find one used would be monitoring all sewing machines and looking at clues, then checking specs by model. I mean in general you can tell by look that it's NOT walking foot for sure.

I'm sure it's possible, just not sure I need to settle with lack of reverse when choosing machine. To put it in perspective - my granpa was sewing leather coats (with fur) for living. I know it was Singer machine circa 1930. I know it was manual drive. I know it's not walking foot. And he was very good and did great job with this machine. I think it had modded spring to sew leather. But reading more about all that I think he did a lot with very little.

I afraid for car upholstery turning 180 degree will not be practical. There is bigger awkward pieces and sewing padding to them, etc. Locking need to be done a lot. I can see when doing belts/holsters it can be done by hand but with lot's of seams it will get old soon

Lots of good input. Can you clarify on "reverse" feature? Longer forward stitch means reduced reverse, what does it mean? I can't sew through the same hole going backwards? Or I can't sew backwards at all? My rationale is this: If stitch visible and need to be presentable I probably won't do reverse anyway. For stitching on a back it doesn't matter how I lock, correct? Can you give me basic input on Pfaff machines to look for? I know it's 545, but there is 1245? And others I assume? What numbers I should look for? Are they all made in Germany? On Singers, as long as it's 111 or 211 it will work for me, correct? I did more studying on motors and now I think differently. I'm sure I can manage clutch. I just feel like I'm going to hate motor spinning all the time, thats probably bigger issue - noise.

I hear you and part of me wants this... any comment on Singer value I posted above?

Hehe. My BMW is not that old by sewing machine standards it’s 94. And it’s got reverse I watched most of the Cechaflo videos, he uses reverse to lock seams from what I can tell. He got pfaff but I know I need servo and he got clutch. I probably never going to reach high speeds but seeing how scary fast those machines I rather go slow

The guy just posted pics. Considering servo motor will be a must for me what would be a great no brainer price? https://stlouis.craigslist.org/tls/d/singer-walking-foot-sewing/6641290524.html

It's about as much as new 1206 and not sure about this model features, 255rb vs 206rb? Another thing is that machine have clutch and I will have to go about replacing it right away bringing price up even more.. Plus it's couple hours of driving and seems like this is a dealer Nick-O sewing(will charge sales tax ) This one is close by, seller will post pics later, It is a 211 G 156 Walking foot with reverse and set up to sew leather and other thick heavy materials https://stlouis.craigslist.org/tls/d/singer-walking-foot-sewing/6641290524.html But I think I do need reverse on machine and seems like old Singers don't have it?

I was thinking about stitch size for different purposes. For example, wrapping steering wheel machine can be used to make holes before manual-stitch. But thats about 5mm. Maybe when making decorative seams it can be more than 5mm? I don't know, I was just curious where bigger stitches used. Used price of $500-600 sounds great, I would pay it right now But it's always like this, there is none around and when I'm ready to sell mine it will be 500-600.. From price standpoint maybe it is better to find good used machine even if it's same price. Most likely it will cost the same in a year. I'm not really good at finding deals though.. What about 206RB-5? Would it hold value better? It is roughtly $300 more but if I'm going to loose less - it might be a better deal..

Another con for P1206RB (or not?) is stich of 7mm max. When I researched this it seems like actual stitch smaller with thicker materials, so 7mm can become 5mm. Is that true? Where would I need stiches more than 5-7mm?

First post here, but I read half forum by now it seems Here is my background. I'm into cars, currently restoring older BMW. Goal is to DIY everything so it's not about time/money but about doing it myself. Project is to recover seats in leather. I did read and watch as much as possible on subject. Seats actually pretty simple because they consist of 7 smaller parts. 4 bolsters, 2 pads and headrest. Anyway.. My dilemma right now is which machine to get. Primarily between used and new. Here is my thoughts, let me know what you think: 1. There is many different kinds of machines which will do. All with their specifics. Do I really want to tinker with machine? Probably no. Do I want solid thing which is not made in China with parts available in future? Probably yes. Do I like to tinker and learn about things? Yes. Is this (tinkering/restoring/adjusting old machine) part of this project? Probably no. 2. Seeing how it's done (sewing) I will definitely need servo motor and will definitely sew on very slow rpms. Manual lubrication is probably what I want. 3. This is just a hobby. Most likely I will keep machine for a year at most. Probably going to sell it once it's all done. Don't want to spend too much but don't want to be "limited" as I'm new to all this and bad/weak machine will make things even worse. If it becomes long-term hobby I can afford good machine, just no point in spending money now. After reading I think $1k is a good pricepoint. 4. Here in STL there is nothing I see local as far as good used. Prices getting close to $1k for ooold stuff and adding motor, tweaking, etc will get me to the price of new Consew P1206RB. Seems like this machine will do more than what I need, got all features but only concern is lubrication at low speeds. Questions: 1. What do you think about all this? What machine should I look for? How is resale for P1206RB? 2. How much should I budget for accessories? It's for auto upholstery, wonder what needle I need, anything else? Thanks a alot!