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I'll do that. thank you. But I need it to be transparent or at least translucent. Isn't green tape opaque? That is why I have been using masking tape but it makes a mess, especially on veg tanned leather. Cleaning requires saddle soap and scrubbing which, of course, ruins the surface. I've tried every other transparent/translucent tape I could find around here but like I said earlier, they either do not stick of leave residue.
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I often purchase patterns to make leather items. I need to stick those patterns onto the leather. with sticky tape and then take it off once the pattern is cut. That is when the problem arises. The tape invariably leaves sticky residue behind. I have tried several different types of tape but they either do not stick well or they leave a residue. I have clearly not tried the correct tape. What would be the best brand to use for this?
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I am keeping watch and like your leather pieces, @fredk, mine are just going along, being fine, no fungus, no drying, just darkening, the extent depending on the oil used. I am thinking of updating every 6 months now, unless something changes. The ones with mineral oil and vaseline are very much darkened but otherwise fine. Those I will report on more frequently. The 2nd interesting thing is, one of the boxes in which I kept the oiled pieces of leather, got tossed around a bit and the leather pieces overlapped each other and I did not notice. Now I see that some have darkened more where they are not covered by another piece of leather. I will check whether those darkened more or the ones away from light lightened over time. Anyway, regardless of anyone watching this thread, I will continue updating it. It is an experiment, after all. Most people are only interested in the result at the end (whenever it is, for this experiment), while us poor researchers slog on, unnoticed....
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Darkening Leather Boots/Shoes
SUP replied to cottontop's topic in Shoes, Boots, Sandals and Moccassins
In the 2nd photograph, you have a nice contract of a slightly darker shade. It looks good. I hope you get a good shade that works well with the current color. I used Startso brand too. -
Darkening Leather Boots/Shoes
SUP replied to cottontop's topic in Shoes, Boots, Sandals and Moccassins
@cottontop, I see your point and the Amazon products worked for me for definite color. If you want a variation in a shade though, the dye might be better. But yes, it is a pain, at least to me! Even after you order the product that you want, I suggest that you check the actual color on something else that is disposable. Sometimes the actual color differs just enough to disappoint. The shoes that I dyed were all of a single color but the tan I initially ordered was awful, so I ordered a different brand. -
Darkening Leather Boots/Shoes
SUP replied to cottontop's topic in Shoes, Boots, Sandals and Moccassins
I used those Amazon coloring products before I came into leatherwork. They work surprisingly well. The shoes that I dyed several years ago are still going strong, look as beautiful too. They have not peeled or faded. I check them periodically and have no complaints so far. Those products work for those who don't want to get into leather dyeing. So @Tastech while it is true that it is probably paint, it certainly works well for leather shoes. I do not know about how they work on anything else, as I have only used them on leather. -
I know that when I use dyes on leather, it only dyes on the surface. I am making a toolbelt for someone who works with animals and the different pouches are bound to get scratched and even bitten. Any dye will get scratched away and expose the undyed section. I decided to dye with Vinegaroon. Usually, I just dip for a few seconds, rinse and allow to dry. That gives a beautiful black color, but when I cut into it, the leather below is undyed. So I tried soaking the leather in the Vinegaroon for 10 minutes. The dye gets absorbed through and through and cuts and scratches are not so visible. I'm delighted about this, so thought I would mention it here. Of course, I suspect most people already know this, so it is for those who don't. Other dyes, I presume, at least some of them, if you soak for a while, might get absorbed and dye the inner layers as well, but will make the color too dark, especially on the surface. Since this is black anyway, it cannot go any darker.
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Has anyone used transparent/translucent leather?
SUP replied to SUP's topic in Leatherwork Conversation
My transparent leather is exactly the same color. it's beautiful, very soft and easy to cut. After airing it daily for about month, the smell is almost completely gone. -
Just an FYI, @Tophee, These are the key chains that I cut with a hand held die I got from Amazon last fall. They are the discards that I have around the house. The leather used is the embossed scraps lot from The leather Guy. Those dies work.
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Edge beveled size for various leather thicknesses
SUP replied to Aventurine's topic in Leather Tools
@Aventurine , just a thought... It appears you are so new to leatherwork that you are still learning about the tools. Making buckskin moccasins is very different from making structured shoes. I understand that you want to jump in there but why not try something simpler so that you get the hang of leatherwork itself, get the knowledge and then think of moving to making shoes. You can start with a few simple tools, get an idea of stitching other leather, cutting it, working with it, (so different from buckskin - I know - I went that path too but not to other shoes) and then work your way to shoes. You -
Alternative/traditional cutting and punching mats?
SUP replied to Aventurine's topic in Leather Tools
I use thick leather splits for punching. I cut them into the required size and when they get out of shape, replace. For punching thicker leather, I use a wax slab too. It waxes the chisel tips each time the chisels go through and make the punching smoother.- 8 replies
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Tell me what stitching chisel for newbie shoemaker
SUP replied to Aventurine's topic in Shoes, Boots, Sandals and Moccassins
@Aventurine, most important... get an anti-tetanus shot!- 19 replies
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@dikman Yes i was! but I learnt a lot about what I want to do, and more important, what I am not ready for, at this point. Tomorrow... who knows? Sometimes, my enthusiasm and eagerness to learn runs away from me! Thank you, all of you , who went out of your way to teach me so much and especially to warn me of the dangers.
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@Chef niloc, yes electrolysis really cleans rust. I used it for old iron pots and pans a few years ago. i planned to set it up again but don't feel like it for a few tools. So I used lime juice and Evaporust instead. That got the tools clean of rust. Not shining though but I can live with that. Lastly, I used blade wax on them. They are now clean and not getting rusted again.
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@Mablung, Found theses as well. A search for "baby moccasins" did not bring them up but a search for "leather moccasin" did. https://www.etsy.com/listing/491333516/instant-download-leather-baby-moccasin?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=leather+moccasins+pattern&ref=sr_gallery-1-11&dd=1&content_source=4fbbc587a369e2197a40883c1b2842e2ab8ea0ef%3A491333516&search_preloaded_img=1&organic_search_click=1 https://www.etsy.com/listing/952382705/baby-moccasin-pattern-baby-shoes-pattern?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=leather+moccasins+pattern&ref=sr_gallery-1-23&pro=1&dd=1&content_source=9929d1c15769d09f53ae7e5ca3b94943f4e9c385%3A952382705&search_preloaded_img=1&organic_search_click=1 https://www.etsy.com/listing/1434141627/simple-leather-baby-shoe-pattern-for?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=leather+moccasins+pattern&ref=sr_gallery-1-33&bes=1&dd=1&content_source=e1dac6f7330c9d5261e96e6653ec45b3a4a42b4f%3A1434141627&search_preloaded_img=1&organic_search_click=1
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@Mablung yes, I thought that was bit too much! The 2nd one looks nicer too, a bit different.
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I saw these some time back. Not sure if it is what you need. https://www.etsy.com/shop/earthingmoccasins?ref=shop_sections_all&listing_id=930965825#items She is rather expensive though. https://www.etsy.com/listing/998680391/baby-bootie-pattern-to-make-baby?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=baby+moccasins+pattern+leather&ref=sr_gallery-1-9&pro=1&sts=1&dd=1&content_source=308229ece3cd85e37c21e95618f922a24ed0620b%3A998680391&search_preloaded_img=1&organic_search_click=1 This is not.
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@MarshalWill That is a very interesting video. Can't wait to get a piece of carpet to try it.
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Essentially, when finishing veg-tanned leather edges, we burnish and rub the leather down to get a burnished look. That is not possible with chrome tanned leather, where you build up the lowest section of each edge to meet the highest points. You do it in layers, applying thin layers of edge paint and sanding it down. You sand it so that the edge paint on the highest section gets rubbed off while the paint on the lowest section that you are trying to build up, remains unchanged. In this way you build up until everything is of one height. It is like if you baked a cake and it has a depression in the center, you will fill the depression with icing. If the icing gets onto the non-depressed areas, you will wipe it off because you do not want it all to increase in height, only the depression. Once the depressions is gone and the entire cake is level, then you will ice the whole thing. Same principle applies here. All this is only necessary if your cuts are less than perfect as mine invariably are! There is usually at least one section which gives me a headache. Not sure whether I am clear or just obfuscating the issue even more! The link below is for the thread that @Mablung mentioned above. https://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/113745-edge-finishing-chrome-tanned-leather/?tab=comments#comment-736828
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@Mablung yes I did. I use edge paint on chrome tanned leather edges.. That thread did not really go anywhere. I was just talking about what I did and why.
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@Mablung The plane I have is tiny and works for me for edges. It cost not even $5 on Temu. I have one for straight edges and one for curved edges - total less than $10 last year. Do try Temu. One needs to be judicious about buying things there and search a bit to get the best price. Shipping is free and as long as you are ready to wait a couple of weeks, it is convenient. I have not bought anything big from them, nothing ever more than $10. I have rarely been disappointed. Returns are free, if delayed beyond date of expected delivery they pay you $5 as penalty. Good service. I know many people don't like the China aspect of it but even the things we buy here are often made there. We just don't know that, for the most part. These days I only buy from Amazon if it is available from Vine! I tried sanding before that and it made a mess, like @Tophee said. That is when I searched around and I think one of the people who teach burnishing used a plane. As for burnishing, I bought 2 new ones of different sizes and still find myself reaching for that piece of denim!
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The key fob dies can be used by hand. I used one last christmas to make dozens of keychains. about a 100 I should think and it was no trouble at all. Instead of sanding, I use a small Plane or planer or whatever it is called- -used by woodworkers. It evens up the edges well. Then for burnishing I use an old piece of denim..