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Uwe - great information and really am impressed with your home built unit. As for the Efka - way too rich for my blood. The Teknik would be a very interesting way to put together a great system but right now I already have way too many projects! Kgg - good information, thanks, I'll put it all in my memory bank as I continue my quest.

Gump - I caught the start up speed setting in a video on setting the parameters on the Sewquiet 6000, zero disables the slow start but it didn't say what the highest number is nor what the different settings actually do. With my current set up, it's either zero or 500 rpm at the motor. On your sewquiet, can you slow the stitch down just by feathering the treadle?

Keep in mind that I am not concerned with the minimum speed, what I am looking for is a ramp up speed, or actually time. As I have said, I have a speed reducer installed. My minimum motor speed is 500, my final output speed is about 109. I have an app on my phone that uses the camera light to act as a strobe to tell you what the rpm is, both my phone app and calculations are in agreement with my measurement of the pulleys and machine handwheel. I am looking for the slowest ramp up speed between the analog and digital servo motors.

No it didn't. I bought it some years back to upgrade from a clutch motor on my old Singer. I'm really hesitating to buy another digital controlled motor that looks a lot like what I already have. From what I'm reading, the Reliable motor is a 12 coil motor which should give me better start up torque and what looks like a stronger physical designed motor. It seems the Reliable and the Sailrite are the same motors except for price. The brush motor that Wizcrafts talks about looks like its a tried and true motor, just more old school in terms of servo motors. Those reasons are why I'm looking to find someone that has one of these motors, to basically compare actual experiences rather than just reading about them.

Thanks Constabulary but I already built a speed reducer. It does bring the overall speed down nicely but it's the ramp up speed that I'm looking to slow down. My current motor starts at about 500 rpm, I have brought the machine rotation down to about 100 rpm which is nice and slow but it literally goes from 0 to 100 with no ramp up. My current motor also has a digital control so unless it can be reprogrammed, there is no way I can adjust the start up speed. One other thing, using a speed reducer means I can't use a needle positioner due to the rpm differences of the different pulleys involved - although not having one isn't that big of an issue with me. I'm just trying to see if there is a difference in ramp up speed between the two motors that I think I've narrowed things down to.

There have been many good comments on my original question. After doing more research and actual testing, it seems that my biggest problem is the ramp up speed of my Goldstar servo motor. With that said, I'm really leaning towards just replacing it with a better motor. The two that seem to be popular are the Consew CSM550 (or equivalent) and the Reliable 6000sm (or equivalent). I know Wizcrafts has the analog type motor and Uwe has the digital type and I value both of their knowledge and opinions. The price is minimal between the two types although the digital model can use a needle positioner, which might be a nice option but not required. Brush wear is not an issue for me as I would probably never wear a set out. I guess my question really is which one has a slower ramp up speed?

I ordered the same pulley combination, got them off of ebay, they came direct from the C country and cost something like $15 for both. I would have liked to go bigger on th large one but had a tough time finding one that was cheap.

I used that pulley calculator too just to see what speed I would be getting. I also downloaced an app on my phone to use it to measure speed, while probably not perfect, it worked consistently. My pulleys are, measure on the OD of the pulley, 50, 120, 42 and about 80mm on the machine. My measured motor speed was 502, my machine speed was about 106 which matches up really close to the pulley calculator. That gives me about 1.7 stitches per second. I would like to be able to get slower than that, thinking it's the servo motor start-up speed that's keeping things faster than I would like.

Tastech - a picture of the speed reducer I made is on the second page of the link that Burkhardt posted.

Perhaps I should have worded my question along the lines of a slow ramp up in speed from 0 rpm to whatever maximum might be. I do realize that 0 rpm is stopped but one has to start somewhere, and I know what revolutions per minute means - and really why would anyone want to sew at 1 rpm? Wizcrafts you seem to understand my initial question, starting at 200 or 300 rpm is what I have but not what I want. It's that initial start up speed that I'm trying to lower. A clutch type motor could be made to start up slow by slipping it but I don't sew enough to be able to master that technique even though I've driven vehicles with clutches for decades, slipping a clutch on a sewing machine just eludes me! Thanks for all the suggestions and comments, nice to have a great brain trust from which to tap in to once in a while.

Are there any servo motors that actually have a zero speed startup? I bought from a supplier a few years ago but it doesn't start at zero, the controller says 200 I think, not sure if that is truly 200 rpm or not but it isn't zero. I see conflicting specs on some of them saying the speed range is 0-4500 - but will it actually start at 0 rpm?

You can get complete tension assemblies for around $10 US and up on ebay. The servo motor will help but put a 40 or 45mm pulley on the motor to really make a difference. I also built a speed reducer for mine which helped slow down the start up speed even more. The post is titled Questions re: DIY box style speed reducer 1 2 .My speed reducer design is on the second page. It still isn't as slow as i want it but I think it's a limitation of my servo motor. I sent you a private message regading the manuals.

You figured it out. Actually I believe one of the manuals covers the exact issue, the solution is to spread the two parts apart with a screwdriver. You don't want to spread them too much or they could break, however once you spread them and the bobbin holds tight, you should be good for years. Have you been able to find an owners manual? They can be found on-line with a little searching. I have also found that downloading the manuals for the 1245 are beneficial, especially when trying to set timing and such.

As long as you have a little clearance between the wheel and the belt when not winding a bobbin, you're fine. I picked up a 545 a few months ago, if you need any help feel free to contact me either with a post or a private message. I'm just getting into sewing as a hobby, these are great machines, parts can be pricey though. One last thing, add a drop of oil in each hole on the bobbin winder, it will seep in and get it running even better. Be sure to give teh machine a good cleaning and lube as well. Greg

Does that machine have a safety clutch? When I bought my Pfaff I too thought the timing was way off, until I started ,looking deeper into it and found the safety clutch had tripped. I didn't realize that a simple jam would trip it - glad to know it works.

Thanks for the reply. Does yours have the long spring or is it a more self contained model?

Well even this had its issues, had to redrill the holes in the leg to get them straight using my drill press instead of my hand drill which even after measuring still didn't drill the holes lined up! Even the simple things throw you curve balls -

Does anyone have any experience with edge guide presser feet? I've seen a couple of different designs and am wondering if one is better than the other.

Thanks for the compliments. Belt tension does take a little effort but not too much, I found setting the longer belt first since the only tension is set by the spring. The smaller belt is then adjusted using the motor adjustment as if there were only one belt. The bearings have two set screws each which prevents the shaft from going side to side. I had to drill and tap the pulleys for a set screw which I used a regualr screw for now along with small flat spots filed into the shaft and also a little Loctite retention compound. It is simple and might not hold up to 8 hours a day use but I think it will suit my needs just fine. All total I think I paid about $57. I had the angle iron laying around, I could have saved a few bucks had I used a shorter shaft but I wasn't sure how my final design was going to need.

They were on my phone but I sent them to my computer via email and then resized them to around 500 kB and then saved that file to the computer - phone font size is way too small for these older eyes! I am uploading them again but have moved them to the C drive on the computer rather than my Microsoft365 drive, maybe that's the problem. It was not, I clicked on "insert other media" and they appeared. Must have been user error ....

It wouldn't let me upload them even after resizing, trying it again. Doesn't seem to be working, I see them after I pick them and watched as they were uploaded, they are both around 500 kB so well under the 1.46 MB limit. Anyone have any suggestions?

Here are a couple of pictures of my version of a speed reducer using information from this thread - thanks to all! Pulley sizes are 120 and 40 mm with a 15 mm bore. I welded up a U shaped frame out of 1-1/4" angle. The frame pivots on the leg of my table and is tucked in so it's out of the way. A spring keeps tension on the belts. The motor mount is used to fine tune the belt tension on the belt between the motor and large pulley on the reducer. Belt selection is kind of critical, I used a belt length calculator to pick my belts which worked well. I would like to slow it down a little further as the lowest speed of my servo motor is a little too fast for my liking although I need to do some sewing to see if I can adapt to the slowest speed. My options are a larger diameter large pulley, a larger balance pulley on the machine or a servo motor controller that has a lower intial speed. Overall I'm very satisfied with it and really like the simple design. I ran it without the spring and it worked OK until I tried to sew 4 layers of vinyl which cases the small pulley on the speed reducer to slip. Adding the spring worked great, it actually rises up a bit on startup but there is no slippage on multiple layers of vinyl. I don't have much tension on the spring, if it did start to slip all I would do is pull it down a little more. I do need to cut the shaft down and paint the frame but until I spend a little more time with it I'll call it almost done!

I'm talking about a Pfaff, 545 for clarification. Maybe that explains the different location of the screw on the smaller forward foot between the Pfaff and the Consew? I only have a Pfaff presser foot and nothing else to physically compare it to, again just trying to wrap my head around the differences since this is a new hobby to me.

Kind of curious and trying to learn. Are presser feet interchangeable between Pfaff/Consew/Singer etc.? It seems that as long as they are the same shank length, they should interchange. I noticed some of the screws for the front foot are in a different location, maybe there might be a clearance issue? I realize there may be some specialized presser feet that won't work but I'm wondering if they look similar they should work?

I really like your design, it has given me some great ideas for making mine. I'll be sure to post some pictures when I get it done. Thank you (and everyone else on this thread) for your inspiration!