Question on these spur strap patterns

[bland]

Do you have the Leather Crafter's Journal they came out of?  They usually have a picture of a finished product. 

What I'm seeing  on the fold back pattern looks like your buckle piece will be sandwiched between the face piece and the billet strap.  Then a keeper will also be through the bag punch holes and is sandwiched between as well.  

After the billet goes through the ring it will go back through the buckle and the keeper.  

 

In the thread through the billet looks like it goes through the 3/4 inch holes but it doesn't show where the buckle will go.  Is there another  piece of the pattern?  Here is a similar style from southtexastack.

 

Edited April 28, 2022 by bland
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[TSes]

Here'a a pic out of that magazine. The strap does go through the holes.

[grmnsplx]

Ah yes that makes a lot of sense. 
Thanks for the pics. 

[Davm]

Spur straps (spur leathers) are a subject of interest to me- if you gentlemen don't mind- I'd like to talk about some aspects of it.  I've only made one pair to date, they're okay but I want to make another pair.  Spur straps are a project that doesn't take up much leather, has a practical application, and a chance to "go fancy" on all the work.

The straps I made are just like those posted in the photo by Bland.  I made some trials with fake leather and the two slots for the tongue seem to align the two sides and hold everything correctly.  

1. One concern is the spurs themselves, some have the stud for the straps on a hinged part.  The originals worn by the old cowboys didn't have this hinged part- I'm not quite sure why they started making them that way.

2. Folks used to put chains on spurs, that went underfoot. I like chains- I think they prevent the spur from riding up on the boot however there is a pivot type issue- even with chains the spurs can still ride up on the boot.

3. Conchos look good, I want one on the next straps I make.  On the internet there is a tutorial using a ladder back type concho and then a leather tab is fitted into the ladder and this tab has a hole for the spur button.  SEEMS overly complicated.  My thought is to use a regular concho with a center post. I researched this and folks sew a liner to the inside of the straps with a slotted hole for the button but once again- seems overly complicated.  Why not just remove the botton or stud from the spur and use that holer and then have a bolt go through the spur into the center post of the concho?  Is there some reason that can't be done that I am not seeing?

4. Those who ride "English style" have thin straps for their spurs.  Is there a reason the western straps are shaped the way they are? Extra protection for the foot if you rub up against a fence post, etc. ?

5. What I'm thinking is a border around the leather, a basket weave stamp with a mule shoe border around the edge.

6. ONE other issue. Some times I see straps with the buckle as in the above photo but the buckle strap seems folded back on itself or maybe it is going through the leather.  What is needed are photos of the back side of the spur straps.