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I know i am going to get slammed for this post and it is not my intention to offend anyone, but i am totally blown away by the number of gun and knife accessories on leatherworker. I can appreciate the beautiful workmanship, but coming from a country where it is illegal to own a gun or carry a knife, i find it hard to comprehend the interest in these weapons. Last year we had only about 100 gunshot homicides in the whole country from a population of 20,000,000 people. I know this is a sensitive issue with a lot of people, but i am glad we have a no gun law in Australia.

OK... i am ready....fire away!!

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Erm for a country that has a no gun law and still got 100 gun shot homisides there is somthing wrong,

its all a politicall thing take a look at the UK they are trying to ban all types of weapons but the criminals still have them,

the redgistered gun owner is normally a responsable person with no criminal record and as soon as he breaks the law, even drunk driving, his licence will be revoked, speaking from the european side of the law in Germany,

here in germany we have sporting gun clubs in every village and you dont hear every day in the news of and gun related homisides thank god,

all of the custom stuff i do are for collectors reenactors or sports shooters,

i allso see some guns as a work of art in the way they are made finishing and the way they work too, some are collectable for lots of reasons, and to have a well made holster to put them in for the practicall or for show isnt making this weapon any more dangerous, as the saying goes guns dont kill people people kill people,

it is in the nature for humans to be violent some more than others, there is probably more base ball bats bought for self protection than used for the sport but this doesnt mean we have to ban the sport, humans will always find ways and means to protect them selves, Don

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Of course we have target gun clubs here too and target shooting is a very credible sport and the registered owners are responsible and very well screened , and of course there will be illegal guns in all communities, but the average person cannot buy a gun just for protection and there really is no need here.

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Leatheroo,

I can understand your aversion to guns (lots of people feel the same way here in the U.S.), but I think you'll find that the folks that post pictures of knife sheaths and holsters here are some of the finest people you'll meet. They're extremely talented leatherworkers in their own right, and are interested in firearms for sport shooting, hunting, or military service. No one here is interested in committing a crime.

I think you can still enjoy the artistry that goes into making a fine holster or sheath, even if you're not a gun or knife owner. I don't own a gun or a motorcycle or a horse, but still enjoy seeing everyone's work that complements such items. :)

Best regards, -Alex

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Leatheroo,

I can understand your aversion to guns (lots of people feel the same way here in the U.S.), but I think you'll find that the folks that post pictures of knife sheaths and holsters here are some of the finest people you'll meet. They're extremely talented leatherworkers in their own right, and are interested in firearms for sport shooting, hunting, or military service. No one here is interested in committing a crime.

I think you can still enjoy the artistry that goes into making a fine holster or sheath, even if you're not a gun or knife owner. I don't own a gun or a motorcycle or a horse, but still enjoy seeing everyone's work that complements such items. :)

Best regards, -Alex

ALEX YOU ARE SO RIGHT............... :beer:

Luke

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Darling,

You stay in your country and live with your gun laws and we promise to stay in our country and live with ours.

Art

I know i am going to get slammed for this post and it is not my intention to offend anyone, but i am totally blown away by the number of gun and knife accessories on leatherworker. I can appreciate the beautiful workmanship, but coming from a country where it is illegal to own a gun or carry a knife, i find it hard to comprehend the interest in these weapons. Last year we had only about 100 gunshot homicides in the whole country from a population of 20,000,000 people. I know this is a sensitive issue with a lot of people, but i am glad we have a no gun law in Australia.

OK... i am ready....fire away!!

For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!

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at the risk of sounding cliche....."guns don't kill people...people do".....i know that this is the battle cry of the gun owners in the states...but it's true....the people who want guns for the purposes of killing others....will get guns through any means necessary...whether their legal or not in your country.....the only statistic that gun laws effect are the accidental shooting statistics....accidental shootings can ALWAYS be attributed to stupidity or neglect..."hmm...i've got four children in my house...that like to play cops and robbers....i think i'll go ahead and leave my gun out in the open, loaded and unlocked"...the dangerous part of the "American gun culture" is the fact that SOME gun owners shouldn't be allowed to own guns (or have kids, or be responsible for anything but scratching their own butts) because they don't possess the proper level of intelligence, maturity, sanity, responsibility, or any combination there of, to own a deadly weapon.

Also...something that's always neglected in the "gun ownershhip debate" is the population ratio of the example countries.

currently the US has a population of around 301,139,947 people....that's a lot of folks....and we've got a rellatively dense population...the vast majority of people live in a rellatively small portion of our large country.

the US's gun related death rate is OFTEN compared to england (alot of times it's europe as a whole...but we'll stick with the limeys because it's easier) who's population is around 50,690,000 people....do the math...that's a difference of 250,449,947 people.......there's no way to do a direct numerical comparison between the two...

another metric often used is the suicide rate involving guns as the suicide method

This image shows the suicide rates of various countries where a gun was the method of suicide and it's clear that the US is in the top list...HOWEVER This image shows the average suicide rates per 100,000 people on a global map...this shows that australia, the former USSR, china, and MOST of europe have the highest percentage of total suicides per 100,000 people....this shows that gun ownership is not directly related to suicide rates....and that the fact that the US has the highest percentage of gun related suicides is only a function of the fact that we have more guns available, while still having fewer percentages commiting suicide

this is not to devalue your views...they are yours and you should hold them...but many people forget the facts and data when they start to argue about government policies....

"We are all blind men touching an elephant. Each with a different view. It's only when we compare our experiences that we can truly know the complete picture" ~ Buddhist proverb

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I can easily hurl potential lethal projectiles quickly and easily with any number of system. The logic of banning guns and knives makes as much sense to me as banning lungs because they can intake potentially lethal substances including that dreadful oxidizer, oxygen.

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Leatheroo,

After more than thirty years in local and Federal law enforcement, I can tell you that most cops have no problem with private ownership of sporting and defence firearms. We, more than most, understand the phrase, "When seconds count, the cops are minutes away." You state that there is no need in your country for self-defence ownership of firearms/knives, but I'd be willing to bet that a sizeable portion of your "only 100" homicide victims might have seen a need...

Mike

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Harry S. Truman

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