shoepatcher Report post Posted November 16, 2022 nice C!!! glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) some cleaned parts Interestingly most of the bigger parts are marked with the last 3 digits of the machines serial number. Edited November 16, 2022 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) nice C!!! Durkopp mad the shoepatchers in 25 machine lots. The problem was parts from one lot would not necessarily work form one lot to the next. The number on it was a serial number part for that machine or lot. The parts sure look nice and cleaned up after being in the electrolysis tank!!! glenn Edited November 17, 2022 by shoepatcher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) more parts to clean (bobbin winder and other bits). Disassembling the bobbin winder was a little tricky. I feared to break something - fortunately I did not. Lots a tiny bits n screws... Edited November 17, 2022 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Still nice C! glenn 10 hours ago, shoepatcher said: nice C!!! Durkopp made the shoepatchers in 25 machine lots. The problem was parts from one lot would not necessarily work from one lot to the next. The number on it was a serial number part for that machine or lot. The parts sure look nice and cleaned up after being in the electrolysis tank!!! I need lots more pics to help me with mine. glenn Edited November 18, 2022 by shoepatcher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) Head is apart EDIT: cannot rotate the pics I shot with my cellphone as it seems Edited November 27, 2022 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted November 27, 2022 C, I have a 17-1-1 that looked just like that and the table is just as rusty!!! Too many projects in front of it however. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 27, 2022 Glenn, yet most parts were just dirty but not rusted. Dried oil + dust sometimes looks like rust. The parts turned out really nice! I´m not sure about the color for the casting. I have green in mind or just black as it was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted November 29, 2022 Black would look better. I have on e Durkopp in green, Not as nice as the black. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) alright - so black it will be Just primed the machine casting and some parts.... More pics in the coming days... Edited November 29, 2022 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted December 4, 2022 I´m getting closer. Bobbin winder and head almost done... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted December 4, 2022 Wow! This project is making my heart skip a beat! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted December 5, 2022 Real nice C real nice!!!!! glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted December 7, 2022 it´s almost fully assembled but still needs work - I´ll post pictures tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samalan Report post Posted December 7, 2022 that's a very fine job you are doing it's a real beauty . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) This machine is a bit different to what I have read in the Class 17 manual (of a later version I guess) so far . At least in terms of how to insert the needle correctly / timing. Usually you shove the needle all the way up in the needle holder tighten the needle holder screw and done. This machine is different. When I took it apart I noticed a very clear mark on the needle bar (very unusual for a patcher). Now that it is almost reassembled again I had to figure how to time the machine. It has an eccentric on the gear box (see earlier post) but it indeed ist not for timing it is for compensating wear on the racks and pinion and that is a great feature! I the hell was not able to figure the timing cause I shoved the needle all the way up (of course). I assumed you can advance or retard the shuttle driver pinion by 1 tooth or so.... but no - did not work. Then yesterday night I went trough my manual collection and hell I found an original manual (German Language) for this machine . Did not even know that I have one and since when - really no clue. Now it is clear what the mark on the needle bar is for. So, you have to bring the needle bar in a position that the mark is leveled with the surface of the top side of the head. Then insert the needle in the needle holder until the needle eye is leveled with the surface of the needle plate. And then the machine is timed right. Unusual but not a bad idea. But you have to know that cause all other patcher machines I ever had (yet) were different to this. Will post more pictures later. Edited December 8, 2022 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted December 8, 2022 Damn. That is a whole another way to time a shoepatcher. I will have to remember that. trick. coming along nice!!! glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nbocc Report post Posted December 10, 2022 Amazing job!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handstitched Report post Posted December 10, 2022 OMG !! I wouldn't have the confidence to do what you have done , just looks great I've worked on old tractors, old landrovers and an old triumph and made them go again,, but not old sewing machines. I think I would have trouble re-setting the timing, but I will be paying attention on here on how you do it. I've always been fascinated by peeps on here doing full restores on old machines. Still reckon the deer emblem will look good in gold against the black, but thats just me, ... or is it ?? Well done HS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Broke the hook but I think I have a replacement, however it may work with out the tab too. Will check... I split a screw while turning the screw driver - no idea how this happened But I´m almost done with the head but still needs some work and maybe some adjustment. Added new longer thread spool pins. I forgot to "electrolyse" the hand wheel... so that's next. I just put it on for testing. Edited December 12, 2022 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Damn. That looks nice C!!!!! Never seen a screw split like that. You wire wheeling the parts after they come out of the electrolysis tank? glenn Edited December 12, 2022 by shoepatcher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted December 13, 2022 10 hours ago, shoepatcher said: You wire wheeling the parts after they come out of the electrolysis tank? Yes, every single part! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted December 13, 2022 Looks nice. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeRock Report post Posted December 13, 2022 That screw body looks pretty ductile. I wonder if it can be brazed? Flux it with borax, then squeeze back in shape, then a tiny bit of brazing rod applied..... worth a try. God bless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted December 19, 2022 The screw is replaced already. It was the most unimportant screw on the whole machine. It just holds the oil pot in place. I was just super surprised that it split up like this. Manufacturing error - I will check with Dürkopp if I still wave warranty. When the "planets" are aligned like this and the needle is set as mentioned above the machine is correctly timed and sews well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
