Can of worms

[Frodo]

29 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said:

Of course you can you can also do things that carving cant replicate.

 

That is a really pretty belt

[Handstitched]

Thank you to you both. 

@Frodo You really have opened up a can of worms  

HS

[Frodo]

3 minutes ago, PastorBob said:

All I know is there are some fine examples of both here.  Artists all around.  Love any excuse to see some of your work.  Thanks for asking the question, @Frodo

 No problem,  jus feeling ornery this morning and decided we needed to have a good discussiOn

[Handstitched]

6 minutes ago, Frodo said:

It clearly takes more skill to hand stitch than using a machine

and thats a discussion we've all had before, one of the many reasons why  I love this site  

[Tugadude]

8 minutes ago, Frodo said:

So here are

if stamps were invented to make the task easier and by being easier it lessens the value of that product then apples to apples when using a sewing machine as opposed to hand stitching

It clearly takes more skill to hand stitch than using a machine so in that regard hand stitched items are worth more 

Some do argue that saddle stitched goods are worth more.  And if they get more, what's the problem?

[Frodo]

1 minute ago, Tugadude said:

Some do argue that saddle stitched goods are worth more.  And if they get more, what's the problem?

No problem on my end.  I charge what I charge with out the least thought to any of this.  

[chuck123wapati]

11 minutes ago, Frodo said:

That is a really pretty belt

Darn right and far above my skill level with any technique. 

[Tugadude]

As much as I love Springfield Leather, and I do, when I was there several years ago I noticed that they had begun to market a lot of finished goods, wallets, card holders, etc.  That was new, and I was intrigued so I looked at them, closely.  The stitching immediately made me cringe.  The goods looked fine I guess, but the stitching clearly was made by machine and didn't exhibit any of the hallmark qualities of saddle stitching achieved by hand.  I'll show an example below.  To me they just look "wrong".  Others will disagree, and that's fine.  Aesthetics are personal.  Expectations are personal.  If people don't care one way or another, then sure, they want to buy at the cheapest price.  Some will pay more, some won't.  Always been and always will.

[Frodo]

4 minutes ago, Tugadude said:

As much as I love Springfield Leather, and I do, when I was there several years ago I noticed that they had begun to market a lot of finished goods, wallets, card holders, etc.  That was new, and I was intrigued so I looked at them, closely.  The stitching immediately made me cringe.  The goods looked fine I guess, but the stitching clearly was made by machine and didn't exhibit any of the hallmark qualities of saddle stitching achieved by hand.  I'll show an example below.  To me they just look "wrong".  Others will disagree, and that's fine.  Aesthetics are personal.  Expectations are personal.  If people don't care one way or another, then sure, they want to buy at the cheapest price.  Some will pay more, some won't.  Always been and always will.

I agree,  hand stitched items that are done correctly look better than machine stitched

[Hags]

I'm in the process of doing a bunch of coasters for the local golf course. Definitely stamping them, not carving, except for the border. My attempts at carving and tooling remind me why I had a pretty non-artistic job most of my life. I can visualize and create just fine, but can't seem to draw a stick man without a ruler. Sheridan type/style floral is definitely harder for me.