problems with Hermann Oak

[FrenchMich]

It's the reason why I'd like speak with a responsable of HO. But I can't do that I don't have level in English. I have some friends who are saddlemaker in USA, maybe I'll ask to them to inquire. 

[TomE]

With all the beautiful leather and saddles produced in France, it didn't occur to me that tooling leather would be difficult to obtain.  I've admired the tooled elements that sellier Jean Luc Parisot incorporated into his work.  https://www.instagram.com/parisot_sellier  He might know of another source for tooling leather in France.  His friend Pedro Pedrini would know how to get in touch with Jean Luc. https://pedrinisaddleco.com/biography

[Hags]

I use Goliger leather in California. You can't order on line so I call and tell them I need another hide. It was explained to me that they buy a and b, grade etc from ho. They don't grade them, ho does. They also told me many other places buy tannery run lots and grade them themselves. Their idea of A grade might vary a great deal from ho.

[Burkhardt]

For curiosities sake I'm guessing that it's got the HO stamping on it because that color looks more like what we would import veg tan. Your first pic looks like import and the second looks like HO.

[FrenchMich]

4 hours ago, TomE said:

With all the beautiful leather and saddles produced in France, it didn't occur to me that tooling leather would be difficult to obtain.  I've admired the tooled elements that sellier Jean Luc Parisot incorporated into his work.  https://www.instagram.com/parisot_sellier  He might know of another source for tooling leather in France.  His friend Pedro Pedrini would know how to get in touch with Jean Luc. https://pedrinisaddleco.com/biography

I know them very well, they are two good friends of mine. Jean-Luc use the same supplier than me. I call to Pedro each week and we have a lot of exchanges. I don't have their reputation and not the same considération and and they aren't served the same.
When I said I 'll ask of a friend to call to HO, I was thinking to Pedro. I know too all the saddlemakers of TCAA, because I wrote sevaral articles about them for a French Westen Magazin for more of 15 yaers.

3 hours ago, Hags said:

I use Goliger leather in California. You can't order on line so I call and tell them I need another hide. It was explained to me that they buy a and b, grade etc from ho. They don't grade them, ho does. They also told me many other places buy tannery run lots and grade them themselves. Their idea of A grade might vary a great deal from ho.

Yes I think 

[FrenchMich]

3 hours ago, Burkhardt said:

For curiosities sake I'm guessing that it's got the HO stamping on it because that color looks more like what we would import veg tan. Your first pic looks like import and the second looks like HO.

Yes there is HO Brand but It's a ''tooling molding strap'' and the colour is always a little more white than skirting. And maybe it's also due of the lighting of my workshop.

Edited March 22, 2023 by FrenchMich

[TomE]

5 hours ago, FrenchMich said:

I know too all the saddlemakers of TCAA, because I wrote sevaral articles about them for a French Westen Magazin for more of 15 yaers.

I'd enjoy seeing your work.  I don't have the skill to make a saddle and have focused on bridles and reins for jumpers and dressage.  Antares is a favorite for their styles of bridles. 

[FrenchMich]

I essentially work about chaps, I made a few of western saddles, only for our personal needs. There is some examples of my work on this forum. If you want I can post some pictures of saddles.

[jcuk]

I know Abbey England stock Hermann oak leather so i contacted them to see what what grade it is they have told me its grade AB, don't know if this is any good to you but maybe contact them yourself to if they could get you grade A leather. Also does it have to be Hermann Oak because i know AA Crack stock Wickett & Craig. There may be other suppliers of good tooling leathers in the UK that maybe of use to you 

https://www.abbeyengland.com/hermann-oak-russet-side-e1ah1

https://www.aacrack.com/pages/wickett-craig

 

Hope this helps

JCUK

[FrenchMich]

Hello Jcut and all,

I know Abbey, but since you left Europe It's more difficult for us to buy in England, shipping cost are more expensive than those to bring from USA.
Moreover the exchange between our currencies is to our disadvantage.
But, it's not the problem. you will say that I am complicatedn The Russet is too soft, and it's the same for wickett and Craig which is drummed (trumbled?) leather. I already tried it.
I'm very satisfied with Hermann Oak when I receive quality sides. But it's the problem. 
In any case, thank you very much for all your help and your ideas.

Mich'

 

Edited March 23, 2023 by FrenchMich