CFM chuck123wapati Posted June 2, 2023 CFM Report Posted June 2, 2023 Sadly, in the US, the environmentalists have gotten so many places designated wilderness that the roads which were originally cut for fighting wildfires have been closed off. Yea firefighters cant drive in either how is that for environmental logic? Additionally the amount of deadfall due to the Pine Beatle years ago doesn't allow for the firefighters an easy way out if trouble happens so it to dangerous to fight, most of the time they can only stage and watch it burn. The Mullen fire here a couple years ago was that way, all they could do was fight a few places where they had access and save a few cabins, for months they just sat at the staging area watching the planes try. In addition almost the whole states funding was spent doing nothing because they couldn't do anything. Its a shame. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM tsunkasapa Posted June 3, 2023 CFM Report Posted June 3, 2023 23 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: Sadly, in the US, the environmentalists have gotten so many places designated wilderness that the roads which were originally cut for fighting wildfires have been closed off. Yea firefighters cant drive in either how is that for environmental logic? Additionally the amount of deadfall due to the Pine Beatle years ago doesn't allow for the firefighters an easy way out if trouble happens so it to dangerous to fight, most of the time they can only stage and watch it burn. The Mullen fire here a couple years ago was that way, all they could do was fight a few places where they had access and save a few cabins, for months they just sat at the staging area watching the planes try. In addition almost the whole states funding was spent doing nothing because they couldn't do anything. Its a shame. The state did that in the area I used to hunt. And to close the roads, they went in and 'thinned' the trees, felling them across the road. The last time I was in there, those dead dry trees were so thick I could hardly walk up what used to be a road. Now, not only can't they get there for a fire, they've created the fuel to make it a major fire. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
Members Sheilajeanne Posted June 3, 2023 Author Members Report Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, tsunkasapa said: The state did that in the area I used to hunt. And to close the roads, they went in and 'thinned' the trees, felling them across the road. The last time I was in there, those dead dry trees were so thick I could hardly walk up what used to be a road. Now, not only can't they get there for a fire, they've created the fuel to make it a major fire. SMH... Of course, there's a total ban on open fires in N.S. right now, and fines have been increased to a maximum $25,000. Still, some people have decided, oh, this doesn't apply to me! Quote Several Nova Scotians are facing a $25,000 hit to their bank accounts after violating the provincial ban on fires imposed this week. RCMP spokesman Cpl. Chris Marshall said that the force has issued five tickets with the whopping penalty since an emergency alert went out Monday night notifying of the ban. At 11:20 p.m. on Wednesday, a 27-year-old Waterville woman was slapped with a ticket after having a fire on her property. “A person reported seeing a bonfire at a home on Highway 1,” Marshall said. The fire department had extinguished the fire before the officer arrived, and she was given the ticket by the officer. Other tickets were handed out to a 41-year-old Oxford man Wednesday night, a 58-year-old Elmsdale man for a fire in Enfield on Monday night and two men aged 47 and 52 from two separate incidents in Sipekne’katik. https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/news/no-excuses-nova-scotians-receiving-25000-tickets-for-violating-fire-ban-100859605/# Idiots!! Have several friends and one family member living in the area. They say it is very, very dry right now. And yesterday, there was a thunderstorm, and lightning strikes triggered some fresh blazes. Province just can't catch a break... Edited June 3, 2023 by Sheilajeanne Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted June 3, 2023 CFM Report Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, tsunkasapa said: The state did that in the area I used to hunt. And to close the roads, they went in and 'thinned' the trees, felling them across the road. The last time I was in there, those dead dry trees were so thick I could hardly walk up what used to be a road. Now, not only can't they get there for a fire, they've created the fuel to make it a major fire. Where i hunt the pine beetle kill is so bad the deadfall is six and seven feet high. The critters have all had to change their trails and habits, they cant even get through it. AND get this, a bit more to think about on the fire problem. yes more environmental logic. Traditionally and historically folks used to camp near the creeks and rivers, now called riparian areas, why? because it was moist and fires could be more easily controlled very easy to understand even to people thousands of years ago with no education. Now thanks to idiots with degrees it is illegal to camp within 100 feet of riparian areas because you may damage the fauna. So guess where people camp??? In the dry brushy areas or trees where a fire is 1000 times more likely to catch the place on fire than the moist riparian areas. Its a shame! Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Handstitched Posted June 4, 2023 Members Report Posted June 4, 2023 Those ' in charge' are not always the smartest. Our fire authorities do controlled or prescribed burns before bushfire seasons each year . But ,their so called controlled burns have in the past got out of control burn more than they intended and even burned houses down and put communities under threat. Scientists argue that these ' prescribed burns' do more harm than good and have no basis in science. They destroy diverse and sometimes rare flora and fauna . Thats not very ' environmental friendly' . Go figure? The best people to do burns are the ' Indigenous Peoples , they know what, when and where to burn, they're been doing it for thousands of years, they know exactly what they're doing and without destroying the very fauna they need to survive. HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
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