Contrasting thread color

[toxo]

  On 7/7/2023 at 1:46 AM, Doc Reaper said:

What the hell guys?!?! Y’all are talking about going around your buttocks to get to your elbow. I always cut - tool - stain/dye - sew - mold - sand - final dye - polish. 
How in the world do ya sew a holster after it’s folded and sewn along the trigger/spine????????? Do a video so we can all see how it’s done!

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We can all pick a project to suit an argument. I had no specific project in mind, I was merely pointing out that it's possible to mould - dye and then stitch.

[chuck123wapati]

  On 7/6/2023 at 9:34 PM, toxo said:

Let me first state that I don't make holsters. That being said I have wet moulded many other things. There are many examples on Y/T of getting detail into wet moulding using all sorts of tools including bone folders and fingers as the leather dries.

When I pondered this problem I assumed the back of the holster would be flat, (why wouldn't it be if it lies against the body?). But now I understand that not everyone makes holsters this way.

If I were to make a holster this way I would wrap the gun in plastic film, lay it down and prop it up level, then using some kind of moulding clay I would press it all around the gun to make a mould. Then using something like resin I would pour it into the mould to make a form that I could use again and again using the normal wet moulding techniques.

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toxo blue guns are exact replicas of the gun so real guns don't have to be used. the wet forming process of the type holster he makes uses the forming as the friction that holds the weapon secure in the holster, its not for looks necessarily  so the fit has to be exact.  I think that's the part you aren't understanding of the question. The sewing also has to be tight and exact along the lines of the guns so the leather doesn't lose its form and fit as time goes on.  

[Brooks125]

  On 7/7/2023 at 1:31 AM, Brooks125 said:

I have not tried nylon, but I may be, shortly.  If that is as resistant as you suggest, that may open things up a bit, Thanks.

I have tried the pre-dyed leather.  It molds a little, but not to my liking.  It has too much of a "vinyl-y" feel for what I do. But thanks.

... and sorry if this post went a little off the rails.

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I have no idea where my head was on this response.  YES, I use bonded nylon and it does maintain some of the "antique" look with completely changing color when I use white and then dye the leather.  I just finished a holster that matches my question here.  The long soak seemed to be the answer.

[JLSleather]

not sure what trounble you're having. I sometimes dye a holster after constructing it, but far more often I dye the leather and THEN cut out the parts. There's a reason for that, another time.

I haven't had any issues with the dyed leather not taking water, the exception being some drum-dyed HO I ordered exactly ONCE  and for exactly that reason.

I like that contrasting look, and many other people seem to, too.   Still, I sometimes let the thread go in BEFORE the dye, as in  the last pic.

 

 

[Frodo]

I make the front of the holster 3/8” larger than the Back section

sew them together

wet the front section and not the back

shove a mold into the holster and vacuum seal it. 
 

this, for me, leaves the back flat and only the front is molded

little tip/trick  place the holster on a 2x4 before vacuuming 

 

 

[Frodo]

I have when in a pinch made molds using wood. If you are skillfully with a jig saw and a sander you can make a mold in a coupe of hours

find an image online of the firearm and make sure the scale is correct

cut and paste onto the wood and cut out 

 

[Brooks125]

  On 7/8/2023 at 12:20 AM, JLSleather said:

not sure what trounble you're having. I sometimes dye a holster after constructing it, but far more often I dye the leather and THEN cut out the parts. There's a reason for that, another time.

I haven't had any issues with the dyed leather not taking water, the exception being some drum-dyed HO I ordered exactly ONCE  and for exactly that reason.

I like that contrasting look, and many other people seem to, too.   Still, I sometimes let the thread go in BEFORE the dye, as in  the last pic.

 

 

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The pre-dye is what I ended up doing.  You second pic is more what I'm looking for.  Oil is always nice because the thread doesn't discolor, at all.  I always appreciate your input!

 

[Handstitched]

So many  dying,sewing, molding &  assembly techniques in one thread.  Love the red on black, really stands out, but I would use a Q tip , ear bud to dye the insides of the holes,  but thats just me.

HS