China leather tool makers

[Dgaz]

I was looking at Yangzhi tools for their leather belt buckles. They said they do not have a web page has anyone bought from him before? and how are they on delivery?

Thanks

Dave

[Tugadude]

These people?  Nice looking but I avoid China whenever possible.  Personal choice, YMMV.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaZVgETPajY/

[chuck123wapati]

56 minutes ago, Tugadude said:

These people?  Nice looking but I avoid China whenever possible.  Personal choice, YMMV.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaZVgETPajY/

[okiwen]

Yup.  If there are choices, take the other one.

[Dgaz]

The links you sent me here are the same ones I was looking at

[fredk]

I don't know the seller asked about but may I say ; I have no real other option BUT to buy a lot of supplies out of China. I often buy as cheap* as I can because if I get garbage I've not wasted too much money, plus I buy through ebay & paypal so I can get refunds easily. Other than the odd China seller I regularly use about 6 Chinese sellers. So far no problems with quality and currently items take about 10 to 15 days to reach me (by comparison, items from GB are taking 7 to 10 days to reach me)

I would buy locally if the item was made locally, but its usually imported from China and the price is higher (thats business)

I'd say weigh up the cost/quality with anything you can get locally. If the things are made locally and are of equal or better quality give your money to them. Otherwise don't fear the Chinaman. And, does that one you are asking about take payment by paypal or credit card? With paypal its quite easy to get refunds, you can get refunds thru your credit card but the limit is higher and its harder

* eg, shopping around on ebay I found a French skiver and bought it for £5.80, other Chinese and UK sellers had the same item (they use the same photo and word description verbatim) priced up to over £25. The skiver is excellent and sharp enough to use as it came

waffle mode off

[Tugadude]

1 hour ago, Dgaz said:

The links you sent me here are the same ones I was looking at

I wanted to make certain it was the same company.  Sorry if this turned into a "anti-China" thread, but I believe it is best to try to find alternative sources.  For what it's worth, based on the photos, the products look nice.  There is a spectrum of quality in China just like everywhere else.  There is junk and then there is some really, really quality stuff.  And everything in-between. 

Perhaps you'll find someone here who has done business with this specific manufacturer, but don't be surprised if you don't.

[Tugadude]

Regarding "fearing the Chinaman", as stated above, that misses the entire point.  I have nothing against the Chinese people, it is their government I have an issue with.  They have no power and when they try to speak up, we all know all too well what happens to them.  And then there are the human rights abuses with forced labor and interment camps.  

They also have no respect for copyright or any other intellectual property laws.  They copy everything and they are very good at it.  

In one of my other hobbies, creators will write books or publish videos which sell for anywhere from tens to hundreds of dollars.  You can get them a month later from Chinese sites for $1.99.

Need I say more?  I think not.  

We all buy things made in China because sadly we sometimes have no option.  Many of the drugs we are taking come from there.  But when I have a choice, I choose not to.  And I hope others begin to follow suit.  But if they insist, not much I can do about it. 

[fredk]

One other thing I'd like to add; check the seller's address. Several times I've bought more than a few items from different China sellers. Bought within about 5 days. All the items came in one package from one address. I did some checking and I don't yet know if one seller is using several business names or several businesses are based in one office block. Thanks to Google maps I was able to get views of those business addresses and saw they were large buildings with many floors. Thus when I'm buying from a new to me seller I sometimes check the address to see if they are associated with others. Sometimes it has turned out an associated seller has the same item at a different price

[dikman]

Fred, here in Oz we have little choice as our manufacturing base is now minimal, thanks to successive government policies. Most of the items I end up buying are made in China and sold here at highly inflated prices compared to buying them from ebay/aliexpress - much as you've found. Many are advertised on ebay as "local supply", with an Australian city as location, but in reality they are drop-shipped from China once the order is placed. I hate that but it's difficult to determine before ordering if they are doing that, other than a long delivery time.

And yes, I've often found the same item, sold by different sellers and with identical advertising so I figure it's likely the same company just using different seller names to give people the impression they have choices. It's all a bit of a game dealing with these people.