Doc Reaper Posted July 27, 2023 Report Posted July 27, 2023 this is what $6 got me at one of those antique shops. I understand what the dome shaper is and how it's used. I'm confused about the two holes! It has a number 8 clearly stamped next to the larger hole on the side, which I thought it was for a size 8 rivet. There is a much smaller hole next to the dome shaper. WHAT IS THE SMALLER HOLE FOR?????? the only thing stamped on it are C.S. Osborne & Co. Harrison, N.J. And a number 8 below that. Quote Doc Reaper
Moderator bruce johnson Posted July 27, 2023 Moderator Report Posted July 27, 2023 The hole on the bottom is for setting the bur. Most of the answers I've been told the hole on the side is to hang it up. Don't know for sure. One ironworker told me if a piece off the shank breaks off in the setting hole with a hot rivet then you can drive the scrap up and out that larger hole. That sounds more real. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members BlackDragon Posted July 28, 2023 Members Report Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) The hole next to the dome I use for setting the burr on short rivets and the hole on the side I use for longer rivets. I don't know if it's the correct way but it works for me. Edit: Now that I think about it more I could just use the front hole to start the burr then cut it down the rivet so I can drive the burr further. Edited July 28, 2023 by BlackDragon Quote
Members Handstitched Posted July 29, 2023 Members Report Posted July 29, 2023 Quite a good find for $6.00 HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
CFM chuck123wapati Posted July 29, 2023 CFM Report Posted July 29, 2023 I think its so their bits don't get hot and hang up and break off and they can also clean up the hole during the manufacturing process. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Moderator bruce johnson Posted July 29, 2023 Moderator Report Posted July 29, 2023 I guess I should have gone to the source a few days ago. Here is the catalog page and explanation. Cleanout for anything that gets stuck in the setting hole. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
CFM Frodo Posted July 29, 2023 CFM Report Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 1:08 PM, chuck123wapati said: I think its so their bits don't get hot and hang up and break off and they can also clean up the hole during the manufacturing process. Expand Lol. I am not going to say snytjing but you left this wide open for a bunch of yuk yuks Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles Stand your ass up during the National Anthem
Members jrdunn Posted July 29, 2023 Members Report Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 6:42 PM, Frodo said: Lol. I am not going to say snytjing but you left this wide open for a bunch of yuk yuks Expand I kinda thought the same thing. Quote
Doc Reaper Posted July 29, 2023 Author Report Posted July 29, 2023 That tiny teeny small hole is nowhere near a size 8 rivet, more like the size of a thin finishing nail. Quote Doc Reaper
Moderator bruce johnson Posted July 30, 2023 Moderator Report Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 11:20 PM, Doc Reaper said: That tiny teeny small hole is nowhere near a size 8 rivet, more like the size of a thin finishing nail. Expand The chart I posted above shows the size for each number on the #169 setter. For copper rivets the #8 setter sets a #14 copper rivet. These are tinners rivet setters for iron or copper rivets and probably some reason they are size numbered like they are. It may have been some trade standard at the time. 150 years ago they probably found a #169-8 tinner rivet setter will do a #14 copper rivet for leather too. The #169-4 will do a #9 rivet and the #169-6 will do a #12 rivet. To further confuse things, the #170 setters looks similar to the #169 but not described as hardened at the working end or intended for iron rivets . They are listed in sizes for 8, 9 and 10 rivets and they do correspond to the size of the rivets. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members Handstitched Posted July 30, 2023 Members Report Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 6:42 PM, Frodo said: but you left this wide open for a bunch of yuk yuks Expand O'h dear Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
CFM chuck123wapati Posted July 30, 2023 CFM Report Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 3:37 AM, Handstitched said: O'h dear Expand On 7/29/2023 at 6:42 PM, Frodo said: Lol. I am not going to say snytjing but you left this wide open for a bunch of yuk yuks Expand LMAO!!! hey even the instructions say it can be used to remove any waste thats wedged in your tool. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM Frodo Posted July 31, 2023 CFM Report Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 5:02 AM, Doc Reaper said: this is what $6 got me at one of those antique shops. I understand what the dome shaper is and how it's used. I'm confused about the two holes! It has a number 8 clearly stamped next to the larger hole on the side, which I thought it was for a size 8 rivet. There is a much smaller hole next to the dome shaper. WHAT IS THE SMALLER HOLE FOR?????? the only thing stamped on it are C.S. Osborne & Co. Harrison, N.J. And a number 8 below that. Expand I do not know if I am using the tool correctly but I use the smaller hole to push the burr/washer down as far as it will go Onto my work Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles Stand your ass up during the National Anthem
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