What is Mycelium Leather? Does it exist?

[SUP]

@grep you are right but it is still a simulant and I hope it is labeled as such. Calling it 'skin' and 'leather' is still misleading, no matter, what the reason. Finally, it hardly makes sense to me to come up with alternatives when the original is always going to be produced in huge quantities as a by-product of the food industry. What is to happen to that? Landfills? 

 

 

 

[chuck123wapati]

On 11/8/2023 at 9:53 AM, RobertoDR69 said:

Hi all

A bit of an interesting one for you. 

Does anyone know anything about Mycelium leather and how does it compare with animal leather? 

The question has came up with a chat with my son, who is only a teenager and is not into killing animals; yes these youngsters are changing. So is there an alternative to animal leather?  

If so, how does the dying process work as well as how to put the final wax, oil on to the finished product?

youngsters aren't changing my friend just the bs that is being taught to them. 

 

[grep]

5 hours ago, SUP said:

@grep you are right but it is still a simulant and I hope it is labeled as such. Calling it 'skin' and 'leather' is still misleading, no matter, what the reason. Finally, it hardly makes sense to me to come up with alternatives when the original is always going to be produced in huge quantities as a by-product of the food industry. What is to happen to that? Landfills?

Totally agree there--already way too many products being marketed as leather that really shouldn't be.
I personally don't see it as a replacement for leather, but another option to have available. On the other hand, if the fast-fashion industry must continue, it might be preferable if they used materials like that.

[SUP]

11 minutes ago, grep said:

I personally don't see it as a replacement for leather, but another option to have available.

@grep  You are probably right about that. I don't personally care about killing fungi for their mycelia but I do care about killing animals for food and then discarding other parts, unused. 

[nstarleather]

I've seen it brought up from time to time and even checked out a site for one company that was selling small pieces.  The pricing was on par with Shell Cordovan ($100 for about 1 square foot)...it was waaay too much to take a chance on.

I was interested because it seems to be more of a "grown material" and not like a lot of the other "vegan leathers" out there that are basically a fiber with a plasticy binder.  I've said it before but pineapple, cactus and some of the others aren't really all that different from the 100-year-old technique that LV uses to make their coated Canvas.  The makers play them up as something new and interesting but in practice they're more like coated cloth or paper. 

[Handstitched]

18 hours ago, SUP said:

I do care about killing animals for food and then discarding other parts, unused. 

https://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/101110-spring-flowers-and-good-food/page/12/?tab=comments#comment-723526

"But no part of the sheep was wasted,everything was used. " 

I recently used some ' blood 'n' bone'  ( fertiliser)  in the garden , that came from an  abattoir .

Just sayin' 

HS

[chuck123wapati]

11 minutes ago, Handstitched said:

https://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/101110-spring-flowers-and-good-food/page/12/?tab=comments#comment-723526

"But no part of the sheep was wasted,everything was used. " 

I recently used some ' blood 'n' bone'  ( fertiliser)  in the garden , that came from an  abattoir .

Just sayin' 

HS

i just rendered three gallons of tallow from our Elk, it will be our soap.

[nstarleather]

30 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said:

i just rendered three gallons of tallow from our Elk, it will be our soap.

Exactly it's all used...one argument that I hear from well-meaning people in favor of using leather is that "it will just go into a landfill" and that's nonsense...even if, magically, one day leather is no longer a "thing"...people will figure out uses for it just like everything else. 

[chuck123wapati]

2 minutes ago, nstarleather said:

Exactly it's all used...one argument that I hear from well-meaning people in favor of using leather is that "it will just go into a landfill" and that's nonsense...even if, magically, one day leather is no longer a "thing"...people will figure out uses for it just like everything else. 

yup but if it does go into a land fill it will decompose and go back to nature to be re used unlike most man made products!! one fallacy we hear and have come to accept as fact is that the native Americans used every piece of the animal and they were so much better than us at that, that is true that they did have a use for every piece but they didn't use every piece of every animal every time,  they simply didn't have the room or the time to utilize all of of every animal they took for food. We find tons of proof of that in archeological digs, however now in modern times that is possible to use every piece every time and we do. Every last piece is used and every last drop of blood or bone goes to something to sell or sold as a product of some sort. Wasted cow parts is wasted profit now a days and it just doesn't happen. 

Btw all the trimmings that we couldn't use went to our dogs cooked and ground up for good food for them during the winter the only thing we lose are the bones, we have no way to process them. the hides will be leather this coming spring and My son did keep a couple of bones for handle material Had some mighty fine steaks last night too no hormones ,no vaccines, no diseases no gmo, no wondering who or where it came from just  nature as intended !!

[SUP]

Don't know about 'well-meaning'. It is a question of what vegans expect people to do with fresh animal skins; not the reason why most people use leather, I'm pretty sure. It would be a silly reason anyway. Besides, if vegans object to using skin as leather, will they not object to its use in any other way as well? Unless it continues in its original use?

If people really stop using leather, if skins from fresh kills are not preserved, they putrefy... go back to the land...yes. But somehow, to me, if we make the animal sacrifice its life for food, I think it is  right to use as much of it as we can. As @chuck123wapati says, all of the animal may not be used all the time, but as much as possible? Yes it should. 

@Handstitched that's the spirit!

Anyway, all this is moot. Vegans can shout until they are blue in the face  but does anyone really think  people will ever stop  using leather? While chomping their way through what is inside that leather before it becomes leather? 

What you say, @nstarleather is true. All vegan leather up to now is just plastic with fancy names. This could be something different.