1.5ton manual clicker press

[DieselTech]

31 minutes ago, kgg said:

 

Do the math again including the total running length of the holes. Including the holes and depending on whether the holes are punched or perched that may put you very close or over the 1.5 ton rating.

Yes you should be able to emboss quite easily.

kgg

Ok thanks I appreciate it. I was not thinking about the total area to cut on a wallet back. Lmao my math is way off. Thanks.

[DieselTech]

24 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

I would get a stronger press.  Harbor freight sells em cheap, and they're solid.  I got one round here is.. I think 6 ton (?)... small enuogh to put on a bench.  Big enough to cut your wallets.  Mine used mostly for small holsters, mag pouch parts, drink coasters....

I'd have to look up the "sae" formula for press tonnage, but it would involve the cut length... so a 4" x 4" drink coaster would have a 16" cut length.  You're talking about more than twice that.

I'd do it WITHOUT the stitching "holes", becuase I do not like stitching HOLES.  YEars ago, Tandy sold those little "kits" (which I HAVE used on occasion) with holes - and it sucked   Doesn't look right with thread OR lace, and weakens the project too much.

But yeah - you can emboss with a press as well.  I use it for my "maker stamp" and also for small dies pressed into drink coasters.

  

Thanks. I think I'll get a harbor freight hydrualic press & convert it to a clicker press. Might even get a pump/motor setup & run it thru with foot controls. 

Thanks. 

[fredk]

1 hour ago, DieselTech said:

Thanks. Do you think for wallet dies, I should get them with the stitching holes in the dies? 

My dies, the valet tray and others, cuts stitching holes. They cut slots. They do not remove any leather. The holes JLS is talking about and remembers are great big holes, about 2mm and remove leather. I would get a die which punches the sewing hole as slot

[DieselTech]

I think this would be a great platform to build a hydrualic clicker press from. I can easily make & install a pressing pad/foot.

Plus I can easily add a electric over hydrualic power pack to it with foot controls. 

If I decide to go this route, would there be any interest in a build thread on it? 

 

[toxo]

10 hours ago, DieselTech said:

Guys & gals I'm looking at a 1.5ton manual clicker press. My question: Will a 1.5ton manual clicker press cut out a 10" x 4" wallet back? Or is this wishful thinking? 

Thanks. Any & all help will be appreciated. 

Before I got my 5 ton Lucris I cut all my clicker dies with a simple 1ton arbor press including handbag size panels. Just be ready to walk it around and don't expect to do it in on go..

[DieselTech]

27 minutes ago, toxo said:

Before I got my 5 ton Lucris I cut all my clicker dies with a simple 1ton arbor press including handbag size panels. Just be ready to walk it around and don't expect to do it in on go..

Thanks toxo. If you dont mind who/ where did you buy your clicker dies thru? Like you hand bag dies? Thanks.

[kgg]

9 hours ago, DieselTech said:

If I decide to go this route, would there be any interest in a build thread on it? 

It is always nice to see how members modify equipment to suit their needs. I did look at the desktop style hydraulic press but I choose to go with the more conventional bottle jack and floor style. What I did like about the one you are look at is the head can be moved from side to side.

kgg

[toxo]

10 hours ago, DieselTech said:

Thanks toxo. If you dont mind who/ where did you buy your clicker dies thru? Like you hand bag dies? Thanks.

I'll always look for a cheaper/better way to solve a problem. I realised years ago that clicker dies would make the process much quicker but they've always been expensive. I worked out a way to do it that works. Not as robust as the welded steel ones but I reasoned that they were never get a tremendous amount of use. Having said that, they have been used many times and are still good. I like thinking of how much I've saved over the years. This pic should be self explanatory. The lighter coloured ones are bought obviously. If you do a search you should find one of my posts (to a Chuck question I think) where I provide links to all the bits you need.

Don't forget that these were done in those days on a lowly arbor press which I also adapted to take stamps etc and even a hot foil block. (I won't be getting rid of my Lucris any time soon though)

These were made using that set.

 

[JLSleather]

Two more points here -

http://www.usacuttingdie.com/ folks make a decent die, always arrives sharp and ready to use (sadly, not everybody can say that).

Having said that, no matter where you have dies made, adding holes (or slots, or whatever) is going to increase the cost exponentially.

[DieselTech]

5 hours ago, toxo said:

I'll always look for a cheaper/better way to solve a problem. I realised years ago that clicker dies would make the process much quicker but they've always been expensive. I worked out a way to do it that works. Not as robust as the welded steel ones but I reasoned that they were never get a tremendous amount of use. Having said that, they have been used many times and are still good. I like thinking of how much I've saved over the years. This pic should be self explanatory. The lighter coloured ones are bought obviously. If you do a search you should find one of my posts (to a Chuck question I think) where I provide links to all the bits you need.

Don't forget that these were done in those days on a lowly arbor press which I also adapted to take stamps etc and even a hot foil block. (I won't be getting rid of my Lucris any time soon though)

These were made using that set.

 

Thanks toxo! Them are great looking bags. Them are like the pattern I found I like. 

Thanks for the pics. I got a good understanding how you made your dies.

5 hours ago, JLSleather said:

Two more points here -

http://www.usacuttingdie.com/ folks make a decent die, always arrives sharp and ready to use (sadly, not everybody can say that).

Having said that, no matter where you have dies made, adding holes (or slots, or whatever) is going to increase the cost exponentially.

Yeah if stitch holes are added to the die, I found it adds another $60-$80 per die to add the stitch prongs.